GreenSox Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) Tweeters are now saying Michael Saunders Astros have a quality C prospect behind Castro. I wouldn't overpay for Castro at this point. See how he does this year. I'd deal Viciedo/De Aza et al for prospects in a heartbeat, even if in the low minors. Edited March 9, 2014 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 04:36 PM) Hawk would be ecstatic but I don't understand the interest in Saunders. Much rather take a gamble on Viciedo reaching his potential. Why trade an OF for an OF? That wouldn't make sense to me.. We still be in the same situation with have De Aza coming off the bench.. You get a C, 2B, or SS that is better then what we currently have or has the potential to be or don't make a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 03:25 PM) Tweeters are now saying Michael Saunders Astros have a quality C prospect behind Castro. I wouldn't overpay for Castro at this point. See how he does this year. I'd deal Viciedo/De Aza et al for prospects in a heartbeat, even if in the low minors. Saunders, please no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Just read tweets that Saunders is indeed one of the names involved. I would hope there's a + to that for Viciedo then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 04:42 PM) Why trade an OF for an OF? That wouldn't make sense to me.. We still be in the same situation with have De Aza coming off the bench.. You get a C, 2B, or SS that is better then what we currently have or has the potential to be or don't make a deal. No one's going to give us a good C for De Aza et al (and we have middle infield prospects near ready). That's why I'm okay with prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoSox2k2 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I actually a really intrigued and would really enjoy a 1-2 at the top of the lineup with eaton and saunders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 03:54 PM) Just read tweets that Saunders is indeed one of the names involved. I would hope there's a + to that for Viciedo then. I hate that trade already. Need higher quality than what we've got. Don't think Saunders is any damn good, we've got version of him already. This is way overpaying, for left-handedness? Say it ain't so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I don't get trading one OF for another one that we have to keep on the roster. That doesn't really help the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I see very little validity in Viciedo to Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 05:04 PM) I don't get trading one OF for another one that we have to keep on the roster. That doesn't really help the team. Still could - er should - move De Aza. Not sure if I like Saunders though. REally don't know anything about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 04:02 PM) I actually a really intrigued and would really enjoy a 1-2 at the top of the lineup with eaton and saunders Career OPS 64 points lower than DV, 2 1/2 years older. He's Jordan Danks if we gave Jordan Danks more ABs. This would blow, horribly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 04:05 PM) I see very little validity in Viciedo to Seattle. Please be so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 06:04 PM) I don't get trading one OF for another one that we have to keep on the roster. That doesn't really help the team. This would very much be a "We need to get Viciedo off the roster now before he does more damage" move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 07:22 PM) There could be one caveat in here we're not thinking about. If they're considering moving Viciedo for one of the Mariners' expendibles...that would mean they've reached a point of severe unhappiness with Viciedo, either with something building during last season or something that they're really unhappy with about how he came to camp. Otherwise, the only reason to move him would be the M's overpaying by giving up one of the guys people are saying they won't give up. I believe your point is valid, but Viciedo was hurt last year so are the Sox unhappy with an injured player or thinking he still might perform to expectations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 06:18 PM) I believe your point is valid, but Viciedo was hurt last year so are the Sox unhappy with an injured player or thinking he still might perform to expectations? If they trade him for Michael Saunders + a few random, non-great pieces, they are really unhappy with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Are these Tweeters reputable? If they don't think Dayan will ever lay off the slow stuff getting Saunders back would be a major coup. The trade makes no sense for either team though, they are just swapping disappointing assets without solidified positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (daggins @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 04:29 PM) Are these Tweeters reputable? If they don't think Dayan will ever lay off the slow stuff getting Saunders back would be a major coup. The trade makes no sense for either team though, they are just swapping disappointing assets without solidified positions. Huh? He's bad. We've got about 6 guys in the system that could be better in the two hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 The only thing that makes it logical in my mind is if there is more to the Twins/others interest in De Aza and the Sox end up flipping both guys and rolling with Saunders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 05:30 PM) Huh? He's bad. We've got about 6 guys in the system that could be better in the two hole. He isn't good but his defense alone makes him more valuable than the last two years of DV if neither of them progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (daggins @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 04:34 PM) He isn't good but his defense alone makes him more valuable than the last two years of DV if neither of them progress. The ceiling is so low for Saunders, he's not nearly the plus player we need. If they're angry with Dayan, trade him someplace else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 03:54 PM) Just read tweets that Saunders is indeed one of the names involved. I would hope there's a + to that for Viciedo then. Tweets from who? I've yet to see anything reputable implying anything is close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 05:27 PM) If they trade him for Michael Saunders + a few random, non-great pieces, they are really unhappy with him. I can't believe they didn't get a better offer than Michael Saunders during the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 @ProspectInsider: Hearing Michael Saunders is a name that has been discussed in Dayan Viciedo talks w/ White Sox.” This guy is followed by all the reputable baseball writers like Nightengale, Morosi, Heyman, Mayo. And he likes Saunders a lot more than Viciedo....I do not agree with him on that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 05:53 PM) @ProspectInsider: Hearing Michael Saunders is a name that has been discussed in Dayan Viciedo talks w/ White Sox.” This guy is followed by all the reputable baseball writers like Nightengale, Morosi, Heyman, Mayo. And he likes Saunders a lot more than Viciedo....I do not agree with him on that at all. If they get Saunders for Viciedo, he had better come with a damned good prospect of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 9, 2014 -> 06:01 PM) If they get Saunders for Viciedo, he had better come with a damned good prospect of some sort. I agree completely... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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