ILMOU Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Paulino struggling early again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN 2m #SFGiants off to quick start w/ 3 straight hits off Felipe Paulino for 2-0 lead. Two were bloopers but Mike Morse smoked a 2B. #WhiteSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 02:15 PM) Paulino struggling early again Ooh, gonna have to crank back up my old Rienzo thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 He's coming back from major surgery (well, surgeries) so its likely going to take him a while to get back to form after not pitching for close to 2 years. Didn't the Sox say when they signed him that he likely wouldn't start the season in the rotation and they were "hoping he'd be ready by May"? Maybe I'm mistaken (as I often am). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Lincecum, 3 pitches, 3 groundouts. #FIRESTEVERSON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Paulino is only owed $1.5M this year and the 2015 buyout is just $250K so if the velocity doesn't return by late May/early June you just outright release him and use Rienzo until Beck is ready. The old Paulino is worth throwing out there because if he does well he'll bring back a spect, but a lesser Paulino is only fodder & no reason to run out veteran fodder when you have Rienzo and Surkamp around who are at least young and controllable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 03:43 PM) Paulino is only owed $1.5M this year and the 2015 buyout is just $250K so if the velocity doesn't return by late May/early June you just outright release him and use Rienzo until Beck is ready. The old Paulino is worth throwing out there because if he does well he'll bring back a spect, but a lesser Paulino is only fodder & no reason to run out veteran fodder when you have Rienzo and Surkamp around who are at least young and controllable. Paulino is the finance equivalent of a pump and dump. You try and build his value and sell him to anyone who will listen. If not, it was a million dollars (really you are paying anyone half a million to be on the roster, so you can't even really count that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 02:45 PM) Paulino is the finance equivalent of a pump and dump. You try and build his value and sell him to anyone who will listen. If not, it was a million dollars (really you are paying anyone half a million to be on the roster, so you can't even really count that). They're trying to buy a spect which is a good thing for them to be doing. And going back to my mantra re: the dumping of Dunn which I believe bears repeating, in theory if another team would give up even a decent RP prospect for the guy then might as well do the same thing there and use Viciedo/DeAza (if the org is really down on both) similarly as Paulino. Pump and dump, sounds inviting, sounds like something you'd do with a hooker and maybe Gordon Beckham as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 02:47 PM) How does Luery Garcia go up there swinging after two 1 pitch at bats. I know it's ST but you practice good habits. You'd get benched on my high school team for that type of stuff. Were they fastballs? If so, good job. Swing at those or try to bunt, assuming the Sox feel he's just a bench guy. And given the way Hahn spoke of him during his interview on the Score over Soxfest, I think they view him as a bench guy/PR only. I mean really, you're a Major League pitcher and you're facing Leury Garcia. Are you going to throw him *anything* outside of the zone at all? Why would you? Go right after him, the last thing you want to do is walk or give a hitters count to one of the weakest hitters on the 40-man roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Paulino sounds like he has gotten better as the game has gone on. Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN 2m Felipe Paulino still looks a little rough but has retired 8 of 11, including 5 strikeouts. Got Morse, Pence, Sandoval in 3rd. #WhiteSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Not too horrible for FP. 3 IP, 5H/1XBH 5K/0BB, 2ER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 04:02 PM) None of this matters. Did you play baseball? Part of the game is working the pitcher. Allowing your teammates to get looks at his secondary offerings. Let your pitcher get some rest period. If you're Leury Garcia, and the first two guys get out in two pitches, you don't go to the plate thinking about what Rick Hahn said about you at SoxFest. You go up there and plan on taking the first pitch and working the pitcher. In the regular season, yes. In Spring Training, who cares. It is all about getting your work in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 03:57 PM) Paulino's line through three is interesting. 3 IP, 2H, 2ER, 0 BB, 5K. 26 pitches, 3 Balls. Wildly efficient in his pitch count considering the Ks. Typically, high strikeout guys throw alot of pitches. The ground ball type pitchers are the ones who are usually efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 03:05 PM) In the regular season, yes. In Spring Training, who cares. It is all about getting your work in. In Garcia's defense, the pitch was a BP fastball down the middle. Which, apparantly, is overpowering for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 02:12 PM) Typically, high strikeout guys throw alot of pitches. The ground ball type pitchers are the ones who are usually efficient. I think that was his point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 04:24 PM) I disagree. He was on this team last year. The poor fundamentals should be a thing of the past. Practicing good habits is exactly what the team should be focusing on. Pitchers on the other hand, should use ST to work on whatever they feel necessary. If the pitchers are throwing fastballs to get into shape, why wait to get down 0-2 before swinging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 03:45 PM) Paulino is the finance equivalent of a pump and dump. You try and build his value and sell him to anyone who will listen. If not, it was a million dollars (really you are paying anyone half a million to be on the roster, so you can't even really count that). He's a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 05:34 PM) He's a waste of time. A productive, detailed, solidly argued contribution as usual that in no way reflects poorly upon you for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 04:36 PM) A productive, detailed, solidly argued contribution as usual that in no way reflects poorly upon you for posting it. I'm sure I could have bolstered my point by using some statistic, but I did not feel it necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 04:34 PM) He's a waste of time. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Conor Gillaspie is an avid storm chaser, ala Bill Paxton and Helen Hunt in Twister. Grew up in Omaha. Didn't know that. Surprised they didn't write something into his contract to prevent him from engaging in what is pretty risky behavior. Edited March 12, 2014 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 03:02 PM) None of this matters. Did you play baseball? Part of the game is working the pitcher. Allowing your teammates to get looks at his secondary offerings. Let your pitcher get some rest period. If you're Leury Garcia, and the first two guys get out in two pitches, you don't go to the plate thinking about what Rick Hahn said about you at SoxFest. You go up there and plan on taking the first pitch and working the pitcher. To (somewhat) paraphrase the Hawkaroo, you find out what your hitters can't do and then you don't ask them to do it. Asking Leury Garcia to take pitches and "work" the pitcher is like asking Leury Garcia to hit 20 HRs. Any pitcher on the mound who wouldn't look to start Garcia off 0-1 with the fastball immediately doesn't belong in the Major Leagues. And you can tell that to your Little League coaching staff too. Aggression within the strikezone and hitters knowing their strengths, such is the philosophy of Master Stevenson and in He I trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 03:49 PM) Conor Gillaspie is an avid storm chaser, ala Bill Paxton and Helen Hunt in Twister. Grew up in Omaha. Didn't know that. Surprised they didn't write something into his contract to prevent him from engaging in what is pretty risky behavior. If you grow up in Nebraska tornadoes are like angry racist drunken uncles and cars in your front lawn, it makes sense you'd know lots about them and should you ever escape such a place that knowledge and interest could lead to the prevention of such things reoccurring in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Mar 12, 2014 -> 04:34 PM) This post is a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallonsOfSemien Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Where was Semien this game? He has been milky and smooth this Spring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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