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Tigers extend Cabrera 10 years, $300 million


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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 28, 2014 -> 11:57 AM)
It could be a 12 year deal.

 

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The @tigers and @MiguelCabrera agree to 8-year contract extension through the 2023 season with two vesting options for 2024 and 2025.

Has anyone written what the vesting options are? If I had to guess I'd imagine they were written such that the Tigers would be happy if they vested (i.e. he's still performing well in years 9 and 10).

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 28, 2014 -> 11:03 AM)
Has anyone written what the vesting options are? If I had to guess I'd imagine they were written such that the Tigers would be happy if they vested (i.e. he's still performing well in years 9 and 10).

 

Most vesting options are based on appearances, games, ABs, IP, etc. I haven't seen them yet, but I would bet if gets X number of ABs in the last two years, or something similar, is how it works.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 28, 2014 -> 12:06 PM)
Most vesting options are based on appearances, games, ABs, IP, etc. I haven't seen them yet, but I would bet if gets X number of ABs in the last two years, or something similar, is how it works.

And like I said...if he's meeting those, I think the Tigers are happy, not sad.

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 28, 2014 -> 02:33 PM)
This deal makes DET look much worse in the Scherzer situation.

 

I think a lot of it has to do with Verlander being the home-grown player who has spent his entire career with the Tigers, and the "franchise" along with Cabrera...

 

From Illitch's point of view, he's not going to give equal value or higher (to the Verlander deal) to keep Scherzer, partially out of respect to Verlander.

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 28, 2014 -> 03:33 PM)
This deal makes DET look much worse in the Scherzer situation.

 

Honestly I don't get either contract. The whole point of signing a deal years early is for the team to get some concessions from the player in exchange for signing early. Does that Cabrera deal strike anyone as some sort of a discount? That is a worst case scenario contract. The offer Scherzer turned down at least was a little bit of a discount from the current market, but still, not even that much.

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I just don't understand baseball's need to give a contract like this. 10 years is just flat out stupid.

I mean in 4 years (which is a long time) he might have a bad back or something and be DONE. It's just unnecessary to pay this kind of money to a fricking baseball player. Baseball players would play for a million a year if they had to. For the most part, they are not rocket scientists. Baseball owners slay me.

 

Some of you don't remember the day you could actually go to a baseball game and park for a couple of bucks instead of 25-50 bucks and didn't need to shell out 59 bucks for a halfway decent seat for a meaningless April game. Baseball was never meant to be an elitist sport as it has become. Ridiculous.

 

I guess the team gets to purchase insurance in case he can't ever play again after a serious injury; I'm assuming they at least will do that.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Mar 28, 2014 -> 10:55 PM)
I just don't understand baseball's need to give a contract like this. 10 years is just flat out stupid.

I mean in 4 years (which is a long time) he might have a bad back or something and be DONE. It's just unnecessary to pay this kind of money to a fricking baseball player. Baseball players would play for a million a year if they had to. For the most part, they are not rocket scientists. Baseball owners slay me.

 

Some of you don't remember the day you could actually go to a baseball game and park for a couple of bucks instead of 25-50 bucks and didn't need to shell out 59 bucks for a halfway decent seat for a meaningless April game. Baseball was never meant to be an elitist sport as it has become. Ridiculous.

 

I guess the team gets to purchase insurance in case he can't ever play again after a serious injury; I'm assuming they at least will do that.

 

 

Yes, but those policies are also getting more and more expensive with each megacontract, as the risks to insure them for companies like Lloyd's of London escalate.

 

It used to be you could recover about 35-40% if a player was injured.

 

I would guess these contracts are probably adding another 10-15% in insurance premium payments, above and beyond the actual value of the contract itself.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Mar 28, 2014 -> 11:55 PM)
I just don't understand baseball's need to give a contract like this. 10 years is just flat out stupid.

I mean in 4 years (which is a long time) he might have a bad back or something and be DONE. It's just unnecessary to pay this kind of money to a fricking baseball player. Baseball players would play for a million a year if they had to. For the most part, they are not rocket scientists. Baseball owners slay me.

 

Some of you don't remember the day you could actually go to a baseball game and park for a couple of bucks instead of 25-50 bucks and didn't need to shell out 59 bucks for a halfway decent seat for a meaningless April game. Baseball was never meant to be an elitist sport as it has become. Ridiculous.

 

I guess the team gets to purchase insurance in case he can't ever play again after a serious injury; I'm assuming they at least will do that.

 

 

God I hate when people complain about ticket prices. I saw Chris Sale pitch 13 rows behind home plate last year and it cost me $18. Use the secondary market for tickets. Also, as bad as baseball contracts seem, baseball players still get a smaller portion of the overall revenue than football, basketball, or hockey players. It doesn't even matter. Detroit's tv deal is up in two years and then they sign a new one and Cabrera's deal won't even matter. That's how much revenue these teams are making.

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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 28, 2014 -> 11:45 PM)
God I hate when people complain about ticket prices. I saw Chris Sale pitch 13 rows behind home plate last year and it cost me $18. Use the secondary market for tickets. Also, as bad as baseball contracts seem, baseball players still get a smaller portion of the overall revenue than football, basketball, or hockey players. It doesn't even matter. Detroit's tv deal is up in two years and then they sign a new one and Cabrera's deal won't even matter. That's how much revenue these teams are making.

 

 

If the Tigers are worth less than the White Sox, have the withering Detroit economic downturn to deal with...and can still afford to pay Fielder, Verlander, Cabrera, Scherzer $650 million or whatever, well, there's money there if teams really want to spend it. It's not JUST about Mike Illitch's personal fortune at play here.

 

The main point, though, is that they're not willing to spend it on 2nd tier players like Santana, Nelson Cruz, Stephen Drew and Kendrys Morales...especially when draft pick compensation is attached.

 

But almost every team can sign a $15-20-25 million per year player...if they really want to.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 29, 2014 -> 12:55 AM)
If the Tigers are worth less than the White Sox, have the withering Detroit economic downturn to deal with...and can still afford to pay Fielder, Verlander, Cabrera, Scherzer $650 million or whatever, well, there's money there if teams really want to spend it. It's not JUST about Mike Illitch's personal fortune at play here.

 

The main point, though, is that they're not willing to spend it on 2nd tier players like Santana, Nelson Cruz, Stephen Drew and Kendrys Morales...especially when draft pick compensation is attached.

 

But almost every team can sign a $15-20-25 million per year player...if they really want to.

 

I never understood why you always use this format. The middle number is unnecessary. You're giving a range from a low end to a high end.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Mar 28, 2014 -> 11:55 PM)
I just don't understand baseball's need to give a contract like this. 10 years is just flat out stupid.

I mean in 4 years (which is a long time) he might have a bad back or something and be DONE. It's just unnecessary to pay this kind of money to a fricking baseball player. Baseball players would play for a million a year if they had to. For the most part, they are not rocket scientists. Baseball owners slay me.

 

Some of you don't remember the day you could actually go to a baseball game and park for a couple of bucks instead of 25-50 bucks and didn't need to shell out 59 bucks for a halfway decent seat for a meaningless April game. Baseball was never meant to be an elitist sport as it has become. Ridiculous.

 

I guess the team gets to purchase insurance in case he can't ever play again after a serious injury; I'm assuming they at least will do that.

 

You can take the train to a Sox game and buy a ticket for maybe ten bucks. If you spend five minutes on an online survey, the Sox will give you free tickets. You complain that the Sox should spend more money, yet criticize every team that signs a big FA.

 

 

 

 

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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 29, 2014 -> 05:45 AM)
God I hate when people complain about ticket prices. I saw Chris Sale pitch 13 rows behind home plate last year and it cost me $18. Use the secondary market for tickets. Also, as bad as baseball contracts seem, baseball players still get a smaller portion of the overall revenue than football, basketball, or hockey players. It doesn't even matter. Detroit's tv deal is up in two years and then they sign a new one and Cabrera's deal won't even matter. That's how much revenue these teams are making.

 

Look, I'm just saying baseball wasn't designed to be an elitist sport. You disagree?

I don't and won't sit in upper tank. I'm a box seat guy. So what will a game cost me on the secondary market?

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Mar 29, 2014 -> 12:44 AM)
Look, I'm just saying baseball wasn't designed to be an elitist sport. You disagree?

I don't and won't sit in upper tank. I'm a box seat guy. So what will a game cost me on the secondary market?

 

 

It wasn't designed to be a commercial sport, period.

 

It was designed for the enjoyment of the soldiers around the time of the Civil War, by Doubleday or Cartwright depending on which origin story you choose to go with.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Mar 29, 2014 -> 01:44 AM)
Look, I'm just saying baseball wasn't designed to be an elitist sport. You disagree?

I don't and won't sit in upper tank. I'm a box seat guy. So what will a game cost me on the secondary market?

 

 

I don't know, Greg. You could probably go and sit in the lower bowl for $30. It is hilarious that you say baseball wasn't supposed to be elitist but you are too elite to sit in the upper deck though. The UD at the Cell a few rows back behind home plate are some of the best seats in the house in my opinion. Nobody is forcing you to go to games though. That's why I hate the argument. If it's too expensive, don't go. The games are on television.

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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 29, 2014 -> 03:40 PM)
I don't know, Greg. You could probably go and sit in the lower bowl for $30. It is hilarious that you say baseball wasn't supposed to be elitist but you are too elite to sit in the upper deck though. The UD at the Cell a few rows back behind home plate are some of the best seats in the house in my opinion. Nobody is forcing you to go to games though. That's why I hate the argument. If it's too expensive, don't go. The games are on television.

 

But I like to go. I just don't like the elitist hit on the wallet. Last year I paid 48 bucks for a ticket and 10 for parking (Royals have cheap parking) to see the Sox-Royals and Paulie didn't even play. That sucked.

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