southsider2k5 Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 01:29 PM) Half the posters here seem to think they're a GM. They know what was offered. I'd love to know what was offered. My guess is that it was garbage, which is why both guys are back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 How the f*** does Suzuki manage to find all the holes against us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 Boy I can't wait to see Kurt Suzuki vs teh Sox 17 more times this year... said no Sox fan ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Paulino looks like a reliever to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 12:33 PM) That's a great setup if you think the White Sox are out to win the division title this year. It's a perfect setup for 2014 to push for a division pennant. As far as I can tell though the White Sox haven't done that anywhere else. Felipe Paulino is on the mound, for example, today; he's the kind of guy you don't exactly count on to build a title contender. Platooning guys like that is a terrible move if you look at the long term plan as anything other than "win in 2014". In 2015, both of those guys prices go up and suddenly we're talking about 2 guys paid $10 million+ for that production, one of whom is a free agent after the year, and the other of whom you still don't know if he's even worth a bag of balls because you platooned him the previous year. I didn't think he should have been released, but if the choices were between platooning him and not offering him arbitration, you're pushing me close. The Sox were in "win now" mode in 2008, but you couldn't have figured that from the opening day 25 man roster. As Dick alluded to, Alexei played CF his first few games and Jerry Owens was expected to play a major role on that team. The rotation consisted of Buehrle, Contreras, Vazquez, Floyd, and Danks. Floyd was terrible the year before, putting up a 5.27 ERA in 16 games, 10 starts, while Danks put up a 5.50 ERA in 28 starts in 2007. Several other members of the teams were coming off very disappointing 2007 campaigns overall, and there is no way anybody could have expected that team to compete. They won a division title. Having depth and playing the best matchups is the best way to go about the season, especially early. If they fall out of contention, you'll likely see the Sox actively shopping De Aza with Viciedo playing quite a bit more. Viciedo will still end up with a lot of plate appearances by the end of the year either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Paulino seemed to struggle focusing on Suzuki in that AB with Arcia at 1B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 07:32 PM) Boy I can't wait to see Kurt Suzuki vs teh Sox 17 more times this year... said no Sox fan ever. There always seems to be the one guy doesn't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 01:33 PM) Paulino looks like a reliever to me. The problem is, when he has relieved in his career, calling him a gas can is giving him way too much credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 01:31 PM) I'd love to know what was offered. My guess is that it was garbage, which is why both guys are back. Bucket indicated that Jack Z offered Dustin Ackley for Viciedo, and Hahn countered with Nick Franklin. Maybe this is the year Ackley finally puts it together, but put me in the crowd that has no problem with Hahn turning down a a package that solely includes a glorified utility player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 In fairness to Garcia and Paulino, they're probably not used to performing for huge crowds of 784 fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 His breaking pitches arent fooling anybody right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 01:34 PM) There always seems to be the one guy doesn't there? There's more than one guy against the Sox. Jason Kubel and Ryan Raburn to name at least two. A few on the Royals, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 11:29 AM) I disagree. speaking from the POV of spending a week there watching him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Throw a f***in fastball. Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 01:32 PM) Boy I can't wait to see Kurt Suzuki vs teh Sox 17 more times this year... said no Sox fan ever. I was hoping Hahn was going to grab him as a FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 07:33 PM) Paulino seemed to struggle focusing on Suzuki in that AB with Arcia at 1B. I kind of think this is his history. He can lose his control at times. It ought to be interesting to see if his mechanics improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 What kind of pitch selection is that?? Get him 0-2 and throw 4 breaking balls to the number 9 hitter? Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 12:36 PM) speaking from the POV of spending a week there watching him Has there ever been a guy able to 'play all positions' that was actually good playing at least one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 02:35 PM) Bucket indicated that Jack Z offered Dustin Ackley for Viciedo, and Hahn countered with Nick Franklin. Maybe this is the year Ackley finally puts it together, but put me in the crowd that has no problem with Hahn turning down a a package that solely includes a glorified utility player. If Viciedo is just going to be a platoon player this year, then the Sox won't even be able to get a glorified platoon player for him next year when his salary jumps again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 12:44 PM) I'm thinking Paulino has a real solid game today. I'll ahead and throw out a line... 6 2/3 IP, 2 ER, 2 BB, 5K. Pitch count will remove him from the game early. Welp, unless Dozier hits in to a DP here....this line may be in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Nibbles way too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 He cant put anybody away...his control is terrible right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Just minimize the damage. Worse comes to worse and we all get to yell at Wite for being such a big fan. Win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 My god Paulino, stop dicking around after you get ahead in the count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Apr 2, 2014 -> 01:37 PM) What kind of pitch selection is that?? Get him 0-2 and throw 4 breaking balls to the number 9 hitter? Jesus I'm blaming AJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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