southsider2k5 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 If a pitcher was needed for the rotation at the major league level, and there wasn't an issue with rest necessitating that certain pitchers couldn't be used, who would be the Sox callup? Rienzo? Axelrod? Surkamp? Beck? Someone else? Discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Depends on who's freshest, but Rienzo makes the most sense for a lot of different reasons. Edited April 8, 2014 by witesoxfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Rienzo, then Surkamp. No way it should be Axelrod or Doyle. Beck needs at least 3-4 more months, at a minimum. Probably more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I wish it was Paulino. Or make him 7th. Or 8th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 If they had to call somebody up today, Rienzo would get the call. Maybe a month from now, Axelrod. But it depends on what's going on in the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Has to be Rienzo. After that, likely Surkamp, but maybe Axelrod depending on how Surkamp is doing in AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Should I take the place of Debbie Downer and say I would rather see some consistent success from the bullpen. Who might be in line to take over relief duties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 01:29 PM) Should I take the place of Debbie Downer and say I would rather see some consistent success from the bullpen. Who might be in line to take over relief duties? (Just to stress again, part of "consistent success" is the word "consistent"...which at some level may well require a team to give guys a chance to work through early season struggles). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Rienzo barring any injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooftop Shots Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 10:49 AM) I wish it was Paulino. Or make him 7th. Or 8th. 7th? 8th? you are being generous. Ever since I saw him in spring training I was saying that this guy is a scrub. My feeling is he won the starting job because lets face it. Who do we REALLY have that is not just another "get by-er" type of guy on the right side? We really have NO ONE on the right side with a hopeful feeling of "Whoa....cant wait for this so an so call up." Its when we look at ANY call up that is out there, its more of a feeling of "well...... I guess he has to have a chance" That doesn't cut it if a team wants to contend for a playoff spot let alone be any real threat in our own division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooftop Shots Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 12:36 PM) Rienzo barring any injury unfortunately though he didn't look much different than Paulino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 02:14 PM) unfortunately though he didn't look much different than Paulino They really are not much alike as pitchers. Not sure where you are getting that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 02:13 PM) 7th? 8th? you are being generous. Ever since I saw him in spring training I was saying that this guy is a scrub. My feeling is he won the starting job because lets face it. Who do we REALLY have that is not just another "get by-er" type of guy on the right side? We really have NO ONE on the right side with a hopeful feeling of "Whoa....cant wait for this so an so call up." Its when we look at ANY call up that is out there, its more of a feeling of "well...... I guess he has to have a chance" That doesn't cut it if a team wants to contend for a playoff spot let alone be any real threat in our own division. I would rather have some younger guy being our #5 starter then some old guy coming off an injury and hasn't pitched in awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckweaver Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Tommy Hanson (Surprised it took quiet me to come up with this one!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (buckweaver @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 03:54 PM) Tommy Hanson (Surprised it took quiet me to come up with this one!) Dylan Axelrod 2013 fastball velocity: 88.1 Tommy Hanson 2013 fastball velocity: 89.6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (buckweaver @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 03:54 PM) Tommy Hanson (Surprised it took quiet me to come up with this one!) He probably needs to prove his shoulder isn't completely burned out and be old Atlanta good at AAA before he comes into contention for the 6th spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 06:30 PM) (Just to stress again, part of "consistent success" is the word "consistent"...which at some level may well require a team to give guys a chance to work through early season struggles). No argument with what you say. How long is the rope though? Maybe Nate Jones returning healthy will help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 12:30 PM) (Just to stress again, part of "consistent success" is the word "consistent"...which at some level may well require a team to give guys a chance to work through early season struggles). Or more likely a change in talent evaluators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 06:03 PM) Or more likely a change in talent evaluators. Which by definition would not be "consistent" as it includes the word "change". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 05:13 PM) Which by definition would not be "consistent" as it includes the word "change". It's the success part for this organization that requires change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 06:20 PM) It's the success part for this organization that requires change. Which to a large extent has already happened...but which hasn't had time to be reflected in a long-term big league product Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 11:13 PM) Which by definition would not be "consistent" as it includes the word "change". I will stay on Balta's side on this issue for now. Too early to say our relief pitching talent is bad but a few more months of this and I may be agreeing with Marty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooftop Shots Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 02:35 PM) They really are not much alike as pitchers. Not sure where you are getting that. Guess I should have clarified. Didn't mean pitching styles. I meant that both of them seem to be in the same competitive pitching category of looking like any good line up can just "tee off" on these guys. Saw Nothing real impressive with either one (especially the ability to throw and locate strikes with any good pitches on a consistent basis). As mentioned in a previous post................Another right handed "get-by-er" is not going to be enough to cut it if we are going to give Detroit a serious run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) I don't know if it's worth anything, but Paulino really needs his slider to bite in order to find success, so neither Arizona nor Colorado are good places for him to show what he's capable of. Add the "rust" factor in, and I'm not at all ready to write the guy off. He throws 95 and has decent off-speed pitches. If he's still looking like this in late May or June, I'm ready to declare the lottery ticket a bust. Edited April 9, 2014 by ScottyDo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 By definition, your fifth starter is pretty successful if he's giving you the opportunity to win half those games. So far, he's done that. With Johnson coming out of the gate shaky, there shouldn't be a rush to "demote/waive/cut" Paulino before the end of May. Even if we had the best starting rotation in the AL, we'd still have a ton of bullpen and fielding issues that would be very difficult to fix in the middle of the season. The fact is that we had 3 ?'s in Danks/Johnson/Paulino coming into the season, and question marks at nearly every spot in the bullpen. The worst thing they could do would be overreact to a contending team early and making a move to all of a sudden thrust them into playoff contention this year if it's to the ultimate detriment of the long-term strategic plan going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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