LittleHurt05 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 12:54 PM) All 5. Lucky guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 12:56 PM) Dakich just teeing off on the IU program today For what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 01:46 PM) For what? Here is just some of it http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/colle...ntrol/18414479/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 What a bunch of old man yells at cloud b.s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 04:00 PM) Here is just some of it http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/colle...ntrol/18414479/ And apparently Troy Williams and Stanford Robinson are being suspended for failed drug tests. So much fun, and the season hasn't even started yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 04:44 PM) What a bunch of old man yells at cloud b.s. Overwhelmingly ive seen fans agree with him at least on social media. They think IU ball is sacred and the players aren't acting that way. Edited November 4, 2014 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 06:55 PM) Overwhelmingly ive seen fans agree with him at least on social media. They think IU ball is sacred and the players aren't acting that way. However the school handles all of this, it better be very careful of not bringing the program back to its knees like the post-Sampson cleanup. I in no way mean that the players should get off easy or anything, just that the administration should be very cognizant of not wanting to start all the way back at square zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (farmteam @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 07:01 PM) However the school handles all of this, it better be very careful of not bringing the program back to its knees like the post-Sampson cleanup. I in no way mean that the players should get off easy or anything, just that the administration should be very cognizant of not wanting to start all the way back at square zero. That's more on the players/coaching staff then the administration. Anything the administration does is a result of their actions/performance. I wonder if Groce gets called if Crean is let go, I imagine he would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 09:38 AM) Why is McKay out? Due to being ineligible as a transfer til Dec 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 07:21 PM) That's more on the players/coaching staff then the administration. Anything the administration does is a result of their actions/performance. I wonder if Groce gets called if Crean is let go, I imagine he would be. I just mean that we've all seen athletic departments bungle all sorts of stuff. Given how recently the program was gutted by the Sampson fiasco, it would be a really poor time for the athletic department to make a bad situation worse. And I have zero idea who the next coach would be. But I don't see Crean getting fired immediately, just that it makes it even more likely he's gone after the year -- especially if there isn't market improvement on the court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 09:14 PM) Due to being ineligible as a transfer til Dec 20 Ah, I missed that. So is he eligible to PLAY by that time? Or can he then register for the next semester at that time, and play in January? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 07:21 PM) That's more on the players/coaching staff then the administration. Anything the administration does is a result of their actions/performance. I wonder if Groce gets called if Crean is let go, I imagine he would be. Doubt it. (1) He's not a top tier coach (yet), and (2) when's the last time a major conference coach changed jobs in the same conference? I bet the Big Ten would frown upon that move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 3, 2014 -> 04:44 PM) What a bunch of old man yells at cloud b.s. I don't really disagree with him. There's the annoying "Indiana is the Mecca of college basketball morality" feeling in what he's saying, but I took it as, stop giving these moronic kid excuses. If you're excited to play for Indiana basketball, you don't go partying the night before the first public scrimmage. I think that's pretty reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 12:24 PM) I don't really disagree with him. There's the annoying "Indiana is the Mecca of college basketball morality" feeling in what he's saying, but I took it as, stop giving these moronic kid excuses. If you're excited to play for Indiana basketball, you don't go partying the night before the first public scrimmage. I think that's pretty reasonable. I mean, some athletes nowadays are just very entitled from their HS careers across the board. If I had a chance to step on the court or field at my dream school I wouldnt be partaking in drugs or alcohol, especially the night before an event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 12:24 PM) I don't really disagree with him. There's the annoying "Indiana is the Mecca of college basketball morality" feeling in what he's saying, but I took it as, stop giving these moronic kid excuses. If you're excited to play for Indiana basketball, you don't go partying the night before the first public scrimmage. I think that's pretty reasonable. I'd rather see that then to see idiotic fan bases making pathetic excuses for stupid behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 02:54 PM) I mean, some athletes nowadays are just very entitled from their HS careers across the board. If I had a chance to step on the court or field at my dream school I wouldnt be partaking in drugs or alcohol, especially the night before an event. Would you say the same thing if you were 18 or 19 and it ws being shoved in your face? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 03:13 PM) Would you say the same thing if you were 18 or 19 and it ws being shoved in your face? No idea. I know that I was drug tested heavily as it was but when you are training so heavily trying to fulfill your dreams I cant see going out before an event or even doing drugs in season something I would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 03:25 PM) No idea. I know that I was drug tested heavily as it was but when you are training so heavily trying to fulfill your dreams I cant see going out before an event or even doing drugs in season something I would do. The problem is people that age make dumb decisions. We all have at that age, and those who aren't there yet will. Combine that with how they have been given red carpet treatment since they have shown they were special athletically, a monster gets created. Some overcome it. Some fall predictably into the trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 03:30 PM) The problem is people that age make dumb decisions. We all have at that age, and those who aren't there yet will. Combine that with how they have been given red carpet treatment since they have shown they were special athletically, a monster gets created. Some overcome it. Some fall predictably into the trap. I totally get it, but I also think part of having a focused team is recruiting the right players and leaders as well as having that clean culture that some coaches can instill. You also need to have zero tolerance if you want a clean program or at least take more than a few exhibition games away from the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 03:39 PM) I totally get it, but I also think part of having a focused team is recruiting the right players and leaders as well as having that clean culture that some coaches can instill. You also need to have zero tolerance if you want a clean program or at least take more than a few exhibition games away from the kids. This is definitely something Crean has struggled mightily with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 11:42 AM) Ah, I missed that. So is he eligible to PLAY by that time? Or can he then register for the next semester at that time, and play in January? He can then play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Aaron Craft. /trolling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 08:16 PM) Aaron Craft. /trolling The worst part about all of this is how harsh your boy got hit with a single positive test for weed. Compare that to DUI's etc and its hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 08:49 PM) The worst part about all of this is how harsh your boy got hit with a single positive test for weed. Compare that to DUI's etc and its hilarious He wouldve just got hurt anyway. Opened up a scholarship,this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 4, 2014 -> 08:16 PM) Aaron Craft. /trolling Sigh. If you guys like fun basketball, please let Iowa State survive deep into the tournament. Three pointers, fast pace, and optional defense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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