Jake Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 05:20 PM) It is stunning how bad Cosby has been. It is to the point I'm shocked when he makes a shot. His outside shot looks like Derrick Rose's...but worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 05:20 PM) Who else do you play? Nunn hasn't been good either. I would much rather play Nunn at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I think if OSU would have played m2m all game they could have won by 30+. Starks and Tate can't do anything against that type of length and athleticism. I guess they still might win by 30+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 So taking out the Kennesaw State game I believe Cosby is 14 for his last 74. I mean you have to try to suck that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I like Black and actually think he's been underutilized today but that was just stupid. He's the sole front court player who might turn into a good player, but right now he's not there mentally. He's trying really hard and is making efforts to be a tough guy, which he is - but at the same time he's not ready for this speed either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 04:24 PM) So taking out the Kennesaw State game I believe Cosby is 14 for his last 74. I mean you have to try to suck that bad. I never watched him play at Seton Hall, but I can't believe his jumper could have been this flat when he was there. I just can't imagine him shooting 40% from 3 with this same arc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 QUOTE (Boogua @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) I never watched him play at Seton Hall, but I can't believe his jumper could have been this flat when he was there. I just can't imagine him shooting 40% from 3 with this same arc. I forget who said this but he absolutely looks like a guy who worked on his shot in the basement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 QUOTE (Boogua @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) I never watched him play at Seton Hall, but I can't believe his jumper could have been this flat when he was there. I just can't imagine him shooting 40% from 3 with this same arc. It wasn't this flat. He wasn't a guy who shot it was a ton of arc but his shot is noticeably flatter this year. He shot 43% from the floor and 40% from 3 in the Big East (when the Big East was still really good) on a pretty high volume of shots and now he can't make uncontested layups and its shocking when he makes a 3. It is insane how bad he's been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 04:34 PM) It wasn't this flat. He wasn't a guy who shot it was a ton of arc but his shot is noticeably flatter this year. He shot 43% from the floor and 40% from 3 in the Big East (when the Big East was still really good) on a pretty high volume of shots and now he can't make uncontested layups and its shocking when he makes a 3. It is insane how bad he's been. Yeah, I looked at box scores for him in his last season there and he had big games against final four teams like Louisville and Syracuse. Those teams had really, really good defensive backcourts too. That's why I expected so much from him and didn't think the Abrams loss would be as big. He played some point at seton against those Big East teams and held his own. Boy was I wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Illinois sports are so irrelevant. Maybe the worst time in my life. (Born in 82). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 QUOTE (Boogua @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 05:38 PM) Yeah, I looked at box scores for him in his last season there and he had big games against final four teams like Louisville and Syracuse. Those teams had really, really good defensive backcourts too. That's why I expected so much from him and didn't think the Abrams loss would be as big. He played some point at seton against those Big East teams and held his own. Boy was I wrong. Cosby forgetting how to play basketball is one of the more surprising things I can remember. This isn't a guy transferring from a mid major who is struggling to adjust to higher competition and it isn't a guy who wasn't great at the high major level who transferred for more playing time like Alex Legion. This is a guy who was a damn good player against similar competition (actually better competition than Illinois has played so far when you take into account the cupcakes) and now he is consistently terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 06:40 PM) Illinois sports are so irrelevant. Maybe the worst time in my life. (Born in 82). I'm a fan of Groce, but his clock is starting to tick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 05:40 PM) Illinois sports are so irrelevant. Maybe the worst time in my life. (Born in 82). Since the Rose Bowl both programs have been dreadful (and really football has been terrible for 20 years, thanks Ron). Football hasn't finished above .500 in conference once and basketball hasn't made a single Sweet 16. Ron Guenther let both programs fall into irrelevancy during his tenure by consistently hiring bad football coaches and then hiring Weber who is just awful on the basketball side. And now it looks like Thomas has missed on both of his hires. I liked Groce but he hasn't recruited at a high enough level yet when you account for the fact that it is pretty clear he is not a great X and O guy. Edited January 3, 2015 by whitesoxfan99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) Also, at minimum, Groce should be forced to make changes to his staff after this year. Parham is popular in Chicago but he hasn't helped us land anyone that we probably wouldn't have landed without him and it doesn't appear he brings anything to the table from a coaching perspective and I don't think Dustin Ford has much value at all either. Edited January 3, 2015 by whitesoxfan99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 And re-watching some of the game from yesterday, wow does this team look really poorly coached on defense right now. OSU has some good players but it isn't like they were too quick or too big for Illinois. Illinois wasn't communicating at all on defense, players weren't rotating properly and I still have no idea what Groce's strategy is for defending ball screens. On offense the biggest problem (the turnover issues in the 2nd half which are an outlier notwithstanding) continues to be that there are simply too many possessions where there isn't any ball movement and we force a bad shot early in the shot clock. Add in that Aaron Cosby and Ahmad Starks have apparently forgotten how to shoot the basketball and it is easy to see why Illinois is struggling on that end. Also, unrelated and I've only seen OSU play a few times so I don't know if this reflects how they have looked in other games but I think OSU would also be better off playing man to man than zone against most teams. They have some fantastic perimeter defenders that aren't being utilized in the zone and their players seem to be pretty passive when playing zone in the games I've watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jan 3, 2015 -> 05:47 PM) Also, at minimum, Groce should be forced to make changes to his staff after this year. Parham is popular in Chicago but he hasn't helped us land anyone that we probably wouldn't have landed without him and it doesn't appear he brings anything to the table from a coaching perspective and I don't think Dustin Ford has much value at all either. Ford brings the canada connection, which has resulted in zilch. I was really hoping he got the Ohio job when it opened. Also, bring in Dee, like now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The lack of coaching in high school is killing Cliff. Looks lost out there. Hope he isn't dumb enough to go NBA, but bet he still does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 In 8 seasons, Illinois will have more bowl game appearances than NCAA tourney appearances. They have finally become a football school. (More like a golf/tennis school ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jan 4, 2015 -> 01:29 PM) Ford brings the canada connection, which has resulted in zilch. I was really hoping he got the Ohio job when it opened. Also, bring in Dee, like now. Still tearing it up in his league I think. Have to imagine he makes more doing that than he would as an assistant. Edited January 5, 2015 by Jenksismybitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 11:41 AM) Still tearing it up in his league I think. Have to imagine he makes more doing that than he would as an assistant. I can't imagine Dee would be a coaching upgrade in any way, shape, or form either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 QUOTE (gatnom @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 12:16 PM) I can't imagine Dee would be a coaching upgrade in any way, shape, or form either way. He could sell the school in the same way Jerrance could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 MOAR HOIBERG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Not sure if anyone was watching the last minute of UNC/ND, but Roy Williams misused his timeouts worse than anyone I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 08:06 PM) Not sure if anyone was watching the last minute of UNC/ND, but Roy Williams misused his timeouts worse than anyone I've ever seen. Ever seen Scott Drew at Baylor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 There are gonna be some bad games with this type of team, but tonight was s***ty by any standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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