Rienzo to Chi, Hanson to AAA, Paulino to DL?

[Soxfest]

Dan Hayes ‏@DanHayesCSN 28m

 

Clearly w/ Tommy Hanson moving from extended spring training to Triple-A #WhiteSox feel he's healthy & ready. Wouldn't make move otherwise.

I think Tommy is next in line to get the 5th starter shot. Paulino can go on the 60 day DL for all I care.

[Heads22]

Paulino was nothing more than a shot in the dark. I'm guessing they watched film of him with Coop, they found something they thought they could fix, and that they just had more interest than other people.

 

Let's not act like Paulino was to be the 5th starter for a division favorite. He's the kind of risk you take when you're in our place. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It didn't (yet).

[Bigsoxhurt35]

All I want is for Rienzo to keep us in the game. Paulino went out there and it was over before it started

[maggsmaggs]

Re-emphasizes to me the Sox biggest organization need is pitching. We have zero top-of-the-rotation arms. Beck is a back-of-the-rotation arm. Danish is far away from helping. And that's about it in terms of likely ML starters in the organization.

 

Can't miss on this draft pick.

[Dick Allen]

They paid Paulino what they would pay for three rookie contracts in a bid to build some trade value, and to keep their kids off of the big club for as long as possible. You know, the stuff that gets Lord Theo's knob slobbered on by the same people who think that Sox management is crazy.

Trade value and Paulino don't go in the same sentence. Ever. Let alone after he just missed a year. It was a miscalculation.

 

 

Sometimes tying to be clever and picking up injured broken down players cheap works. Most of the time it does not.

[Dick Allen]

Re-emphasizes to me the Sox biggest organization need is pitching. We have zero top-of-the-rotation arms. Beck is a back-of-the-rotation arm. Danish is far away from helping. And that's about it in terms of likely ML starters in the organization.

 

Can't miss on this draft pick.

One good thing is they know they need more pitching, and have known it for a while. I was reading about their concern a year ago.

[fathom]

Trade value and Paulino don't go in the same sentence. Ever. Let alone after he just missed a year. It was a miscalculation.

 

 

Sometimes tying to be clever and picking up injured broken down players cheap works. Most of the time it does not.

 

For every Scott Feldman, there's a Scott Baker.

[flavum]

Paulino on the DL with rotator cuff inflammation.

Edited April 19, 2014 by flavum

[Vance Law]

Re-emphasizes to me the Sox biggest organization need is pitching. We have zero top-of-the-rotation arms. Beck is a back-of-the-rotation arm. Danish is far away from helping. And that's about it in terms of likely ML starters in the organization.

 

Can't miss on this draft pick.

 

Payroll is increasingly heading toward $4 a year. They'll have plenty of room to buy one on the FA market or trade for a well paid one (a la Peavy) once the team is actually competitive, whenever that is.

[Vance Law]

For every Scott Feldman, there's a Scott Baker.

 

For every Francisco Liriano 2012 there's a Francisco Liriano 2013.

[fathom]

For every Francisco Liriano 2012 there's a Francisco Liriano 2013.

 

That's called the National League

[fathom]

As greg would say, the Sox have to stop getting ex-Royals.

[Dick Allen]

Paulino on the DL with rotator cuff inflammation.

It is actually ERA inflammation

[Dick Allen]

For every Francisco Liriano 2012 there's a Francisco Liriano 2013.

No there is not.

[elrockinMT]

It is actually ERA inflammation

 

 

That's a good one right there! But, on the other hand we went from a pitching strength (bright spot) last year to really struggling early this year. Especially the pen. What happened and tell me it ain't so Joe?.

[fathom]

That's a good one right there! But, on the other hand we went from a pitching strength (bright spot) last year to really struggling early this year. Especially the pen. What happened and tell me it ain't so Joe?.

 

Well for starters, they traded Peavy and Santiago and replaced them with Erik Johnson and Paulino. The trades were good ones and made sense, but still doesn't mean it didn't destroy the pitching depth. As someone said earlier, it's fine the depth is bad because this team isn't trying to compete this year.

[Balta1701]

As someone said earlier, it's fine the depth is bad because this team isn't trying to compete this year.

At some point I just got tired of repeating this.

[Dick Allen]

That's a good one right there! But, on the other hand we went from a pitching strength (bright spot) last year to really struggling early this year. Especially the pen. What happened and tell me it ain't so Joe?.

The good news is Sale, Q and Danks have been as good or better than we can hope. Johnson being a rookie is going to have his moments getting lit up. Paulino and the bullpen have been as Donald Trump would say, a total disaster. They traded their closer, and Jones got hurt, and the bullpen wasn't exactly lights out before that. Hahn has some work to do. At least so far, he is batting .000 with the veteran relievers he acquired unless you want to give him credit for Cleto.

Edited April 19, 2014 by Dick Allen

[fathom]

At some point I just got tired of repeating this.

 

Hopefully when it's September and 3/5 of the rotation is Rienzo, Axelrod and Surkamp, we won't have to keep repeating it.

[Vance Law]

No there is not.

I was joking, but yes you're right. There is not a winning lottery ticket for every losing lottery ticket.

[southsider2k5]

Trade value and Paulino don't go in the same sentence. Ever. Let alone after he just missed a year. It was a miscalculation.

 

 

Sometimes tying to be clever and picking up injured broken down players cheap works. Most of the time it does not.

 

So they are out a million dollars more than if they had played a rookie the whole year. The very definition of low risk, high reward that everyone loves Theo for.

[Dick Allen]

I was joking, but yes you're right. There is not a winning lottery ticket for every losing lottery ticket.

I just wonder how much picking up a guy like Liriano and having him flourish is actually good scouting and how much of it is just good luck.

 

It doesn't seem any one team does a whole lot better picking up these guys than others.

[fathom]

I just wonder how much picking up a guy like Liriano and having him flourish is actually good scouting and how much of it is just good luck.

 

It doesn't seem any one team does a whole lot better picking up these guys than others.

 

Tampa with their bullpen is the best it seems.

[Dick Allen]

So they are out a million dollars more than if they had played a rookie the whole year. The very definition of low risk, high reward that everyone loves Theo for.

What was the high reward with Paulino? Please use common sense. His career high in innings pitched was 139. What are the chances he blows through that after only making 7 starts in 2012 and 5 horrific minor league startd last season? And even if he was decent, what are the chances someone would give you something decent for him?

 

 

[Balta1701]

What was the high reward with Paulino? Please use common sense. His career high in innings pitched was 139. What are the chances he blows through that after only making 7 starts in 2012 and 5 horrific minor league startd last season? And even if he was decent, what are the chances someone would give you something decent for him?

That's why there's a 2015 option on him. If he pulled off a couple solid months, you can decide wehther to move him or whether you think he could contribute to a team that cared in 2015.