BigHurt3515 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Flowers has been getting so many soft hits, awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 The Tyler Flowers BABIP Tour continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Whoo boy Danks got all of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Jordan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 02:39 PM) The Tyler Flowers BABIP Tour continues. Hit is a hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 haha yes! tyler flowers is unbelievable. I've never seen a streak of so many bad hits. Way to go Jordan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Danks!!! It would be awesome for him to get started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Sox 2-0 Danks bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 01:40 PM) Hit is a hit. For the purposes of the game, yes. For the likelihood of it continuing throughout the year, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 02:40 PM) Hit is a hit. This, I'm finding this BABIP stat highly annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 02:39 PM) The Tyler Flowers BABIP Tour continues. Do you bring up this stupid stat in every thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 02:41 PM) For the purposes of the game, yes. For the likelihood of it continuing throughout the year, no. Who cares? You are acting like you are mad at him for having success. Sometimes players go on crazy streaks that defy statistics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 My boy Jordan danks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Danks a 3 outcome player??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 That ball just hung for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 02:41 PM) For the purposes of the game, yes. For the likelihood of it continuing throughout the year, no. No but is shows the flaw in sabermetrics attitude towards strikeouts. You don't have to hit the ball on the screws every time to reach base and ultimately score runs. Many of Flowers hits were hit poorly. More poorly than many outs he has made in his career, but you give yourself a chance putting it in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (scs787 @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 02:42 PM) This, I'm finding this BABIP stat highly annoying. It's not annoying, it's just the law of averages. Over the course of 2000 some plate appearances, no hitters are going to have half of their balls in play turn into hits. Many would be extremely lucky to have 35% of those fall. It's just not plausible to have half of them turn into hits. Flowers isn't going to have a .567 BABIP for the rest of the year. What he's doing now just isn't sustainable. There's nothing annoying about it, it's just reality. Edited April 20, 2014 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Hold the lead do not let Texas score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 02:44 PM) It's not annoying, it's just the law of averages. Over the course of 2000 some plate appearances, no hitters are going to have half of their balls in play turn into hits. Many would be extremely lucky to have 35% of those fall. It's just not plausible to have half of them turn into hits. Flowers isn't going to have a .567 BABIP for the rest of the year. What he's doing now just isn't sustainable. There's nothing annoying about it, it's just reality. The longer it goes on, the better the chance he will finish pretty high above normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 02:44 PM) No but is shows the flaw in sabermetrics attitude towards strikeouts. You don't have to hit the ball on the screws every time to reach base and ultimately score runs. Many of Flowers hits were hit poorly. More poorly than many outs he has made in his career, but you give yourself a chance putting it in play. Which Flowers doesn't do a lot of since he strikes out 35% of the time. It sucks to be a debbie downer about Flowers, but the regression is going to come and when it does, it's going to suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 01:42 PM) This, I'm finding this BABIP stat highly annoying. Why? It shows that he's not really improved, he's just gotten lucky. He's walked less than last year and struck out more, only difference is almost 6 out of every 10 balls he's put in play have landed for a hit. Without any other changes, his stat-line will begin to plummet. QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 01:43 PM) Who cares? You are acting like you are mad at him for having success. Sometimes players go on crazy streaks that defy statistics I'm not mad at him, I'm simply pointing out that the people who think he's improved are in for a surprise. It doesn't really defy statistics either, it happens over a small sample size. QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 01:44 PM) No but is shows the flaw in sabermetrics attitude towards strikeouts. You don't have to hit the ball on the screws every time to reach base and ultimately score runs. Many of Flowers hits were hit poorly. More poorly than many outs he has made in his career, but you give yourself a chance putting it in play. Uh, yeah, which is why I'm pointing out he's actually struck out more than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 20, 2014 -> 02:47 PM) The longer it goes on, the better the chance he will finish pretty high above normal. Even if it's around .350, he might be a .250 hitter, which I'd be fine with. But you have to realize that luck is not a skill. The chances of Flowers replicating his high BABIP in following years is pretty unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Dam walks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Can't recall last time a Sox starter had such poor command of his fastball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I can't explain how frustrating it is to watch him not throw strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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