chitownsportsfan Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 18, 2014 -> 12:03 PM) They've known for quite some time he would have to take a DL stint for the ankle. You don't have to buy anything but it's the truth. Not everyone pays attention to the truth. Continue to LOL, how old are you 12? You sound like a 9/11 truther bro, no offense. I won't post anymore because it's obvious you aren't listening to reason. PRIMA FACIE what evidence do you see for your grand DL plan? On the surface, I see nothing, in fact what I see is bungled management by Robin in letting a player beg his way into the lineup and then aggravated the ankle. As I said, tendionus is from over-use. You think playing in every damn game helped? You are seriously off the deep end here they were planning a DL trip for a guy that continued to play every day with an injury that only gets better with rest? Well if that is true then everyone involved should be fired on the spot for incompetence. If what you are saying is true then why the f*** was he not on DL for the interleague series'? Your theory makes zero sense man, so now they get to lose Jose against much tougher competition so he could play ineffectively against worse teams? Come on, think. Edited May 18, 2014 by chitownsportsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 18, 2014 -> 12:07 PM) Continue to LOL, how old are you 12? You sound like a 9/11 truther bro, no offense. I won't post anymore because it's obvious you aren't listening to reason. PRIMA FACIE what evidence do you see for your grand DL plan? On the surface, I see nothing, in fact what I see is bungled management by Robin in letting a player beg his way into the lineup and then aggravated the ankle. As I said, tendionus is from over-use. You think playing in every damn game helped? You are seriously off the deep end here they were planning a DL trip for a guy that continued to play every day with an injury that only gets better with rest? Well if that is true then everyone involved should be fired on the spot for incompetence. If what you are saying is true then why the f*** was he not on DL for the interleague series'? Your theory makes zero sense man, so now they get to lose Jose against much tougher competition so he could play ineffectively against worse teams? Come on, think. It's not my opinion or a theory kid. If you don't want my info then don't take it. I don't argue about the little insider access I get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Here's my take on what happened. Just speculation of course. The Sox knew that at some point they were going to have to DL Abreu to rest his ankle but didn't want to have him out of the lineup as long as Eaton was still out (not to mention Sale). The Sox medical staff assured them that playing on it would not cause any serious structural damage just pain and discomfort. Abreu told the Sox he could play through the pain, so Sox figured they'd wait til Sunday when Eaton was due back to DL Abreu. Abreu and Sox underestimated the negative effect the pain would have on his performance resulting in the terribly painful ABs (both for Abreu and for us to watch), yesterday. So in 20/20 hindsight it would have been better to DL him after Wednesday's game, but the reasoning behind waiting is somewhat understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ May 18, 2014 -> 02:04 PM) So in 20/20 hindsight it would have been better to DL him after Wednesday's game, but the reasoning behind waiting is somewhat understandable. Even if they didn't DL him after Wednesday's game, sit him out on Friday, rest him for a day or maybe even two and see if it helps. A couple days off helped during spring training. If it continues to be an issue then you can DL him retroactive to the last game he played and already have started him on a healing process, costing the team fewer games without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 18, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) Even if they didn't DL him after Wednesday's game, sit him out on Friday, rest him for a day or maybe even two and see if it helps. A couple days off helped during spring training. If it continues to be an issue then you can DL him retroactive to the last game he played and already have started him on a healing process, costing the team fewer games without him. I agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 It has actually been bothering him since spring training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy esposito Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 18, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) Even if they didn't DL him after Wednesday's game, sit him out on Friday, rest him for a day or maybe even two and see if it helps. A couple days off helped during spring training. If it continues to be an issue then you can DL him retroactive to the last game he played and already have started him on a healing process, costing the team fewer games without him. Every time we hear of a player going for tests it usually the player's condition ends up worse that they thought initially. If this were in October he would have plenty of time to heal. I have the feeling that 15 days is not enough . also thinking that if he comes back too quickly his problem will reoccur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (sammy esposito @ May 18, 2014 -> 07:21 PM) Every time we hear of a player going for tests it usually the player's condition ends up worse that they thought initially. If this were in October he would have plenty of time to heal. I have the feeling that 15 days is not enough . also thinking that if he comes back too quickly his problem will reoccur. He's getting an MRI tomorrow it sounds like, so hopefully everything is ok. If they have to do an MRI to rule out a more severe diagnosis, then it makes it even more puzzling they let him play for the last week. Edited May 18, 2014 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Rock, can you explain the thought process behind "planned" DL trip? It would make perfect sense if they anticipated it but were keeping him out there in hopes that it might resolve itself. Simply pre-planning it would have to have some kind of personnel-related reasoning...ie, wanting to wait for Eaton's return or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ May 18, 2014 -> 03:05 PM) Rock, can you explain the thought process behind "planned" DL trip? It would make perfect sense if they anticipated it but were keeping him out there in hopes that it might resolve itself. Simply pre-planning it would have to have some kind of personnel-related reasoning...ie, wanting to wait for Eaton's return or something There was no "pre planned" DL trip. The Sox had no handle on the injury at all. Now Jose needs an MRI. In Rock's world I'm sure they planned the MRI as well, like 2 weeks ago. It's ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ May 18, 2014 -> 03:05 PM) Rock, can you explain the thought process behind "planned" DL trip? It would make perfect sense if they anticipated it but were keeping him out there in hopes that it might resolve itself. Simply pre-planning it would have to have some kind of personnel-related reasoning...ie, wanting to wait for Eaton's return or something I posted over a week ago that I heard they thought he would eventually have to go on the DL. That's all I know. It was evident that eventually he would have to take a couple of weeks off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 18, 2014 -> 03:30 PM) There was no "pre planned" DL trip. The Sox had no handle on the injury at all. Now Jose needs an MRI. In Rock's world I'm sure they planned the MRI as well, like 2 weeks ago. It's ludicrous. Hahahahaha. My info is now "my world". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 18, 2014 -> 09:30 PM) There was no "pre planned" DL trip. The Sox had no handle on the injury at all. Now Jose needs an MRI. In Rock's world I'm sure they planned the MRI as well, like 2 weeks ago. It's ludicrous. Rock has provided GREAT information to this board over the years. When he states he's heard something, it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Yeah, Rock's always been..."rock" solid. I hope people being dicks doesn't dissuade him from posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ May 18, 2014 -> 03:33 PM) Rock has provided GREAT information to this board over the years. When he states he's heard something, it's true. Now you know why most info is shared via pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 18, 2014 -> 03:30 PM) There was no "pre planned" DL trip. The Sox had no handle on the injury at all. Now Jose needs an MRI. In Rock's world I'm sure they planned the MRI as well, like 2 weeks ago. It's ludicrous. If the assumption is that the team is as stupid as you think they are, you should find another team to root for, and you should quit harassing people who are trying to give the rest of us some insight into what is going on behind the scenes. N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 18, 2014 -> 03:39 PM) Now you know why most info is shared via pm. Sign me up then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 18, 2014 -> 03:30 PM) There was no "pre planned" DL trip. The Sox had no handle on the injury at all. Now Jose needs an MRI. In Rock's world I'm sure they planned the MRI as well, like 2 weeks ago. It's ludicrous. Actually, it does make some sense. This tendonopathy is thetype of problem that they will need to manage like a plantar fasciitis. Hewill need 4 to 6 weeks of rest for it to really heal. They can manage well enough during the season but need some rest. An MRI will do nothing except confirm theinflammation which theyalready know. This tendon is very superficial and can be felt around the ankle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ May 18, 2014 -> 06:26 PM) Sign me up then. Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ May 18, 2014 -> 03:05 PM) Rock, can you explain the thought process behind "planned" DL trip? It would make perfect sense if they anticipated it but were keeping him out there in hopes that it might resolve itself. Simply pre-planning it would have to have some kind of personnel-related reasoning...ie, wanting to wait for Eaton's return or something I'm sure they planned it because they knew he would need to rest eventually. This isn't something that would resolve itself without rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Ben Badler @BenBadler 2m Another home run for Jose Abreu. Not like this guy was a secret. Marco Paddy and the White Sox just flat out beat other teams on him. There are a few guys on this board who continue to say that Marco Paddy didn't bring in Abreu though...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted June 4, 2014 Author Share Posted June 4, 2014 By far the biggest factor, perhaps the only one, was the Sox having the highest bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jun 3, 2014 -> 09:46 PM) By far the biggest factor, perhaps the only one, was the Sox having the highest bid The key is knowing that the bid will be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 MLB Stat of the Day @MLBStatoftheDay 1h Jose Abreu has 17 homers in his first 46 career games - something only one other player has done: @Braves OF Wally Berger in 1930. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 this was a great moment from last nights game. http://wapc.mlb.com/cutfour/2014/06/04/781...from-line-drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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