TaylorStSox Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 He's having trouble identifying sliders and cutters tailing away. He's probably never seen many that are this good. It's actually kind of remarkable that he's doing this well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Apr 21, 2014 -> 08:54 AM) he needs a nickname The Big Embargo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Apr 21, 2014 -> 07:54 AM) he needs a nickname leave that to the guy who created "HoT FiRe" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Apr 21, 2014 -> 05:03 PM) He's having trouble identifying sliders and cutters tailing away. He's probably never seen many that are this good. It's actually kind of remarkable that he's doing this well. Agreed. I remember Coespedes first year. After about a month there was a thread here basically laughing that the A's got hosed. He turned it way on that summer, obviously. I kept that in mind, Alexei, Coespedes, etc, all seem to have shown how big the adjustment is but then made it rapidly. I figured Abreu would do the same and he has, but you can also see him learning day by day. It's exciting he is hitting the mistakes so hard, and continuing to get on base regardless of cold streaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Apr 21, 2014 -> 08:51 PM) The Big Embargo Abs-reu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Christopher Kamka @ckamka 8h Jose Abreu: 18 RBI through first 20 career games is most by a White Sox player since Zeke Bonura in 1934 (20) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I've been sayin to anyone who'd listen, that man down there is the best ball player I've seen since Zeke Bonura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 10:21 AM) Christopher Kamka @ckamka 8h Jose Abreu: 18 RBI through first 20 career games is most by a White Sox player since Zeke Bonura in 1934 (20) OT: not a twitter guy, but love that guy's tweets, very knowledgeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Apr 22, 2014 -> 10:49 AM) OT: not a twitter guy, but love that guy's tweets, very knowledgeable. Agreed. His factoids are among the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Could Alexei and Viciedo be trying to emulate Abreu? Or, maybe he has even been "coaching" them a little. Neither of them has had a start like this season's first month. Where would the Sox be without the Cubans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 QUOTE (Lillian @ Apr 23, 2014 -> 03:10 AM) Could Alexei and Viciedo be trying to emulate Abreu? Or, maybe he has even been "coaching" them a little. Neither of them has had a start like this season's first month. Where would the Sox be without the Cubans? Perhaps our new hitting coach has been coaching them? I seriously doubt Abreu has offered much technical advice to either player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 23, 2014 -> 04:58 AM) Perhaps our new hitting coach has been coaching them? I seriously doubt Abreu has offered much technical advice to either player. Yes, but isn't interesting that the two players with the most impressive start are Abreu's fellow Cubans? Alexei hitting for average and power in APRIL!! Viciedo hitting for average, and drawing walks. Are these the same two guys? If Steverson were the difference, interesting that he should be getting through to the two guys who barely speak English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 You're right. I just read this: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...ws&c_id=cws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 QUOTE (Lillian @ Apr 23, 2014 -> 06:26 AM) Yes, but isn't interesting that the two players with the most impressive start are Abreu's fellow Cubans? Alexei hitting for average and power in APRIL!! Viciedo hitting for average, and drawing walks. Are these the same two guys? If Steverson were the difference, interesting that he should be getting through to the two guys who barely speak English. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that most non-Hispanic hitting coaches still find a way to work with their Hispinic players. And a quick google search confirms that Steverson can converse in Spanish. And again, my beef is with the idea that guys like Abreu & Konerko are working on the technical aspects of batting with other players. Is it possible? I guess so, but it seems incredibly unlikely IMO, and quite frankly that's the hitting coach's job. I'm not going to argue that Abreu may serve as a mentor to a guy like Viciedo, but that comes down more to preparation side of things. Viciedo becoming more patient is something Steverson has been pushing and credit should go to them not Abreu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 23, 2014 -> 05:58 AM) Perhaps our new hitting coach has been coaching them? I seriously doubt Abreu has offered much technical advice to either player. Viciedo and Flowers at the very least have completely different approaches at the plate this year. Dunn is also approaching things differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I think just being around a new guy with that much hype has kinda woken those two up a bit. Before that they were the new guys on a team with vets. Now they see Abreu come in and feel like they can be a part of this too. Almost like, hey don't forget about us, we can play too. Whatever it is, I'm glad those two have gotten off to a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 23, 2014 -> 06:02 AM) Viciedo and Flowers at the very least have completely different approaches at the plate this year. Dunn is also approaching things differently. What's new about Flowers's approach? He's walking and striking out pretty much exactly the same amount as he was last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 23, 2014 -> 07:29 AM) What's new about Flowers's approach? He's walking and striking out pretty much exactly the same amount as he was last year. Flowers has mentioned altering his swing path in such a way that he can hit more singles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 23, 2014 -> 07:29 AM) What's new about Flowers's approach? He's walking and striking out pretty much exactly the same amount as he was last year. He is taking the ball the other way a lot more. Not trying to hit every ball 700 feet. He is striking out a ton, and obviously has hit in some good luck, which should go back closer to the mean, but no way would he give himself a chance to be this lucky with his old approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 23, 2014 -> 07:29 AM) What's new about Flowers's approach? He's walking and striking out pretty much exactly the same amount as he was last year. Watch some games man. He is wearing out right and right center with two strikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 23, 2014 -> 07:29 AM) What's new about Flowers's approach? He's walking and striking out pretty much exactly the same amount as he was last year. His arms are back in a better position. His bat is inverted with the bat knob facing towards his back foot. The bat head is above his head. He is setting himself up better by keeping his upper half more quiet with this setup, and his lower half is keeping closed more with a firm front foot and great rotation on the back heel. So far it looks pretty damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I dont know if you guys can see it, but Abreu has a certain finish/follow through when he hits a ball that I can tell it is leaving the park. Its like he is mad at the ball and sending it away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 We'll see on Flowers. I can't help but think he's just getting lucky right now, but I'll defer to those with greater knowledge on swing mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 23, 2014 -> 09:31 AM) We'll see on Flowers. I can't help but think he's just getting lucky right now, but I'll defer to those with greater knowledge on swing mechanics. He's absolutely getting lucky now, but his game has improved overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 At this point, Abreu is an All-Star. It'll be tough though with Oritz, Mauer, Pujols, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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