southsider2k5 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 6m Ventura unsure of Tuesday's starter at Wrigley Field, but right now it looks like Hector Noesi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Kepp and Paulino starting rehab and another Noesi start? Great day to be a Sox fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 2, 2014 -> 10:36 PM) Kepp and Paulino starting rehab and another Noesi start? Great day to be a Sox fan! Nothing like bullpen days against probably your two biggest rivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Colleen Kane @ChiTribKane 2m Robin Ventura not yet naming Tues. starter vs. Cubs, but said as of now could be Hector Noesi. Erik Johnson throwing in Charlotte tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 2, 2014 -> 03:33 PM) Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 6m Ventura unsure of Tuesday's starter at Wrigley Field, but right now it looks like Hector Noesi atsa no gouda That was tee-ball after the 3rd inning Weds. Edited May 2, 2014 by Stan Bahnsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) What a horrible decision, if so. But as I said before there's no way the Sox are this dumb. They will call someone up. Edited May 2, 2014 by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 The guy can't be sent down to stretch his arm out without passing him through waivers. The only way to stretch his arm out to starting innings is to work him a few times as a starter to build up his arm. It's the right move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 He showed some real good signs last time out. I wouldn't mind giving him another start if he looks decent again, but it's certainly something I'd look at on a start-by-start basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 2, 2014 -> 05:59 PM) The guy can't be sent down to stretch his arm out without passing him through waivers. The only way to stretch his arm out to starting innings is to work him a few times as a starter to build up his arm. It's the right move. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2014 -> 04:39 PM) Nothing like bullpen days against probably your two biggest rivals. Remember when the Cubs series actually mattered? Years ago I would have been pissed that Noesi is starting. Now? Whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 2, 2014 -> 09:59 PM) The guy can't be sent down to stretch his arm out without passing him through waivers. The only way to stretch his arm out to starting innings is to work him a few times as a starter to build up his arm. It's the right move. No. You can't stretch out a guy at the major league level or else you stretch out your bullpen. You especially can't do this when the rest of your rotation is terrible and the bullpen is being stretched out too often. You especially especially cannot do this when your bullpen is thin too and now we start risking injuries on their arms as well. It can work once in a blue moon followed by an off day (see the last start) but not when you play 8 games in a row. So obviously won't work today. I don't have much confidence in Ventura but even he will make the right move here. Edited May 2, 2014 by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 2, 2014 -> 07:46 PM) No. You can't stretch out a guy at the major league level or else you stretch out your bullpen. You especially can't do this when the rest of your rotation is terrible and the bullpen is being stretched out too often. You especially especially cannot do this when your bullpen is thin too and now we start risking injuries on their arms as well. It can work once in a blue moon followed by an off day (see the last start) but not when you play 8 games in a row. So obviously won't work today. I don't have much confidence in Ventura but even he will make the right move here. Is it a better move for the club to win some games in the short term or have someone they think can be a starter for the long term? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 QUOTE (ScottyDo @ May 2, 2014 -> 11:50 PM) Is it a better move for the club to win some games in the short term or have someone they think can be a starter for the long term? More like Is it a better move to win some games now as well as win some games later, or risk injury on several different arms on a guy they they may or may not actually want to be a starter and have other means to do that anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 2, 2014 -> 06:46 PM) No. You can't stretch out a guy at the major league level or else you stretch out your bullpen. You especially can't do this when the rest of your rotation is terrible and the bullpen is being stretched out too often. You especially especially cannot do this when your bullpen is thin too and now we start risking injuries on their arms as well. It can work once in a blue moon followed by an off day (see the last start) but not when you play 8 games in a row. So obviously won't work today. I don't have much confidence in Ventura but even he will make the right move here. Welcome to rebuilding where none of this actually matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 3, 2014 -> 02:46 AM) Welcome to rebuilding where none of this actually matters. Injuring and putting unneeded wear on arms doesn't matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 2, 2014 -> 08:51 PM) Injuring and putting unneeded wear on arms doesn't matter? 90% of that bullpen is transients who won't be on the roster when this team matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 3, 2014 -> 01:59 AM) 90% of that bullpen is transients who won't be on the roster when this team matters. Yet Petricka and Webb have been asked to go long in games. Another thing is that by destroying your bullpen with these type of games, it could put unnecessary stress on the arms of other starters because they have to go longer due to a banged-up bullpen. Edited May 3, 2014 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 2, 2014 -> 11:16 PM) Remember when the Cubs series actually mattered? Years ago I would have been pissed that Noesi is starting. Now? Whatever. With all do respect, I hope you are only speaking for yourself. It matters to me. I hate just giving the Cubs a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 The Cubs are just a team on the schedule. The word "rivalry" shouldn't exist in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ May 3, 2014 -> 04:29 AM) The Cubs are just a team on the schedule. The word "rivalry" shouldn't exist in baseball. It's Chicago vs. Chicago. What are you talking about? Why shouldn't it be a rivalry? Sports are supposed to be fun and these games should mean a lot to competitors. I realize most of the big leaguers could give a s***, though. They are too busy counting their money and checking their investments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I don't think it's anyone's "fault" that the rivalry is dead right now, it's just the teams both suck. Both fanbases are disenfranchised. It's hard to care about who is king of a pile of s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 2, 2014 -> 04:36 PM) Kepp and Paulino starting rehab and another Noesi start? Great day to be a Sox fan! Another loss to Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 3, 2014 -> 04:11 AM) Another loss to Cubs. Pitching match-ups look rough for the Sox next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 2, 2014 -> 10:27 PM) With all do respect, I hope you are only speaking for yourself. It matters to me. I hate just giving the Cubs a game. It doesn't really matter to most people on both sides of town. That will change in the future, but that's the current state of baseball in the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I know guys, the Cubs are so impressive. We should seriously be terrified. Just look at their performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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