Marty34 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 Looking at some of the raw numbers on pace for 2,434 total bases, last year had 2,104. Doubles on pace for 315, last year had 237. Runs on pace for 845, last year 598. Seversen has been worth his weight in gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 No doubt about it, hitting is contagious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) We have to give credit to Coach Steversen. The hitters are being patient this year and the results are evident. Edited May 10, 2014 by GreatScott82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ May 10, 2014 -> 02:02 PM) We have to give credit to Coach Steversen. The hitters are being patient this year and the results are evident. This is always the question. Is it the coach or is it having someone like Abreu in the lineup taking pressure off the others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ May 10, 2014 -> 08:02 PM) We have to give credit to Coach Steversen. The hitters are being patient this year and the results are evident. Are there any stats showing that we are being more patient? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 QUOTE (Hawkfan @ May 10, 2014 -> 05:03 PM) Are there any stats showing that we are being more patient? With Viciedo? absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 10, 2014 -> 10:23 PM) With Viciedo? absolutely. Steverson may be giving them a different approach, however viciedo's pitches per plate has been consistent. 2012: 3.76 2013: 3.82 2014: 3.72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 patience is for doctors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 QUOTE (Hawkfan @ May 10, 2014 -> 05:39 PM) Steverson may be giving them a different approach, however viciedo's pitches per plate has been consistent. 2012: 3.76 2013: 3.82 2014: 3.72 At the very least he's swinging less. He's walking at nearly 3x the rate of last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 10, 2014 -> 02:49 PM) At the very least he's swinging less. He's walking at nearly 3x the rate of last year. Baseball is such a perplexing game . A simple thing such as a 1st pitch ball or a 1st pitch strike to a batter can make all the difference . I suppose it evens out over the year but I'd swear it seems like Viciedo 1st pitches have been more balls than strikes. If there are stats on this I'd like to know if my observation is correct. Edited May 10, 2014 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 10, 2014 -> 10:02 PM) Baseball is such a perplexing game . A simple thing such as a 1st pitch ball or a 1st pitch strike to a batter can make all the difference . I suppose it evens out over the year but I'd swear it seems like Viciedo 1st pitches have been more balls than strikes. If there are stats on this I'd like to know if my observation is correct. Well, if viciedo is hitting better, pitchers will be less willing to throw strikes early, especially to an agressive hitter. So that may be the cause for more first strike balls. sample size is probably too small for that assumption however. I also had my first visit to the infamous fangraphs website today, and noticed that Viciedo has swung at more pitches outside the zone this year. (very insignificant amount). Willing to listen and research more, but I'm only a fan of patience if it means not swinging at balls outside the strike zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 QUOTE (Hawkfan @ May 10, 2014 -> 04:19 PM) Well, if viciedo is hitting better, pitchers will be less willing to throw strikes early, especially to an agressive hitter. So that may be the cause for more first strike balls. sample size is probably too small for that assumption however. I also had my first visit to the infamous fangraphs website today, and noticed that Viciedo has swung at more pitches outside the zone this year. (very insignificant amount). Willing to listen and research more, but I'm only a fan of patience if it means not swinging at balls outside the strike zone. He doesn't have Abreu's size and plate coverage, but Viciedo being aggressive when he's ahead in the count and driving pitches to RF that are just a bit outside of the strike zone is fine. Technically, they're "bad" pitches, but how many hits did Vladimir Guerrero get on non-strikes during his career? We can't take away his aggressiveness 100%, but he's certainly controlling his swing more because the majority of his hits are to CF and RF, compared to being so pull happy and swinging out of his a-- no matter the game situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy esposito Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ May 10, 2014 -> 02:02 PM) We have to give credit to Coach Steversen. The hitters are being patient this year and the results are evident. I believe the spray chart of our hits this year will show that our hitters are not pulling the ball as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ May 10, 2014 -> 03:46 PM) This is always the question. Is it the coach or is it having someone like Abreu in the lineup taking pressure off the others? Considering how bad Konerko was last year, I think replacing him with Abreu could be a big factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (Hawkfan @ May 10, 2014 -> 04:03 PM) Are there any stats showing that we are being more patient? Here's a custom leaderboard I threw together on FG: http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...=&players=0 I added plate discipline stats, just switch back and forth between 2013 and 2014 to see the differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 11, 2014 -> 03:40 AM) Here's a custom leaderboard I threw together on FG: http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...=&players=0 I added plate discipline stats, just switch back and forth between 2013 and 2014 to see the differences. That is cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ May 10, 2014 -> 02:02 PM) We have to give credit to Coach Steversen. The hitters are being patient this year and the results are evident. Not just patient, but a plan of attacking each pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ May 10, 2014 -> 10:12 PM) New Flowers replacing old Flowers. New Viciedo replacing old Viciedo. 2014 Ramirez replacing 2013 Ramirez. New Gillaspie replacing old Gillaspie. Makes you wonder if this team has been drug tested yet this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 11, 2014 -> 03:38 AM) Makes you wonder if this team has been drug tested yet this season With exception of Ramirez, it's not like power #s have gone way up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ May 10, 2014 -> 09:53 PM) With exception of Ramirez, it's not like power #s have gone way up. In fact, Viciedo's nowhere close to his 2012 homer pace of mid 20's. But he's a much more effective and dangerous hitter right now, and the homers always clustered in bunches for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ May 10, 2014 -> 10:53 PM) With exception of Ramirez, it's not like power #s have gone way up. In fact all of the rest of their power numbers have come down (Dunn, Flowers, Viciedo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 10, 2014 -> 10:38 PM) Makes you wonder if this team has been drug tested yet this season No, it doesn't. No one is doing anything they haven't shown the capability to do before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 11, 2014 -> 09:00 AM) No, it doesn't. No one is doing anything they haven't shown the capability to do before. Non unless you are talking about taking pitches and hitting for averages, but I have yet to see a drug for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 11, 2014 -> 09:04 AM) Non unless you are talking about taking pitches and hitting for averages, but I have yet to see a drug for that. Smoking pot? It helps everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 11, 2014 -> 05:45 AM) In fact, Viciedo's nowhere close to his 2012 homer pace of mid 20's. But he's a much more effective and dangerous hitter right now, and the homers always clustered in bunches for him. He's actually fallen right back into the same old habits...look at his May splits...in April he was laying off the bad pitches...but he's not anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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