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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 11, 2014 -> 05:08 PM)
Would have been better if we had kept Cleto, lol. Francisco's stuff is nothing like what he used to throw.

 

"Hit Me" on that hanger.

Someone claimed Cleto already?

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QUOTE (fathom @ May 11, 2014 -> 03:07 PM)
Since when is Francisco a long reliever? 41 pitches is simply insane for him. This bullpen mgmt of late makes no sense.

 

 

Ventura has that stupid...well, we are trailing by 1 or more runs, so we can never use Putnam/Webb/Belisario/Lindstrom..."A" Bullpen thing.

 

And finally he makes a move when the game has become academic.

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QUOTE (fathom @ May 11, 2014 -> 09:07 PM)
Since when is Francisco a long reliever? 41 pitches is simply insane for him. This bullpen mgmt of late makes no sense.

 

 

Might be a sign of how the bullpen is viewed overall. But, Frankie was in there too long

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Still not convinced Ventura is the right manager for this team when they're back to a competitive level.

 

Obviously, when you change out Peavy and Santiago for Paulino/Johnson/Noesi/Carroll/Leesman/Rienzo, you're expecting to be a 74-78 win team at best.

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QUOTE (flavum @ May 11, 2014 -> 03:10 PM)
Ventura gets such a pass in this town.

 

Everyone knows he's just wearing it for the franchise while things are down and they're rebuilding.

 

He's a PR buffer to protect Reinsdorf and Williams until they can get things turned around.

 

It's pretty hard to "hate" him like many did with Ozzie...so, you get something even worse, apathy. In all fairness, how can you get all over someone who never had any experience in the first place? Well, you can get all over Williams or Reinsdorf, but that takes too much energy to connect all the dots. It's the same thing with the Cubs...if they keep going through different managers, eventually the blame game will point to Epstein.

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QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 11, 2014 -> 09:13 PM)
Imagine what we could do with a real manager

 

We will see if he is still around in 2-3 years when hopefully the Sox have more talent. These growing pains with Ventura are rough

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QUOTE (fathom @ May 11, 2014 -> 04:16 PM)
We will see if he is still around in 2-3 years when hopefully the Sox have more talent. These growing pains with Ventura are rough

That is the thing RV is not 1% better as a manager than he was day 1 on the job. Same mistakes over and over.

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