GGajewski18 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Jim Duquette @Jim_Duquette 41m Anthopoulos just told us besides a starter he would like to find a mainstay at 2b or 3b, and possible some bullpen help @MLBNetworkRadio AA has always been asking about Beckham from the Sox. Now that he's hot, still relatively young, and has been having a good season, could this finally be the year they make a trade for Beckham? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 25, 2014 -> 04:38 PM) Jim Duquette @Jim_Duquette 41m Anthopoulos just told us besides a starter he would like to find a mainstay at 2b or 3b, and possible some bullpen help @MLBNetworkRadio AA has always been asking about Beckham from the Sox. Now that he's hot, still relatively young, and has been having a good season, could this finally be the year they make a trade for Beckham? Give them L Garcia, Marcus Semien and/or Bellisario and Downs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 25, 2014 -> 12:05 PM) Give them L Garcia, Marcus Semien and/or Bellisario and Downs I was thinking of packaging Beckham and Downs and letting Semien take over 2B.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 In before Creepy Avatar Guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 You trade Beckham, not Semien. Beckham is no longer cheap labor. And for what he gives you, you definitely prefer to go with cheap labor if you can. Rather than pay that...for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Now is the moment to move, and move on from, Gordon Beckham. The Sox have a number of options to replace him, he is going to be expensive soon, and he is starting to hit better. The BJs would be a good org to target since they have a lot of interesting pitching in the lower levels - a guy like Chase De Jong might be a reasonable return for a guy who, as recently as this offseason, was considered "cooked". Other potential buyers include the Orioles, Braves, maybe even the A's. Looking at Fangraphs, a surprising number of competitors have gotten diddly squat from the keystone this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 For example, the .7 WAR the Sox have gotten from 2B this year places them 15th overall and 1.2 WAR better than the Orioles, who are ostensibly competing for the AL East crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 The Phillies could just clean up this year if they were to trade Utley, but that isn't a very RA Jr thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ May 25, 2014 -> 05:44 PM) You trade Beckham, not Semien. Beckham is no longer cheap labor. And for what he gives you, you definitely prefer to go with cheap labor if you can. Rather than pay that...for that. If you trade players to keep those making MLB minimum you will always have a cheap team competing to stay out of last place. Money should not be the motivating factor at this point and especially if you are building a winning team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 25, 2014 -> 07:00 PM) If you trade players to keep those making MLB minimum you will always have a cheap team competing to stay out of last place. Money should not be the motivating factor at this point and especially if you are building a winning team But if 2 players are able to put up similar overall numbers then it definitely should play into decision making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 SP Chase DeJong and OF Dalton Pompey are intriguing names in A ball that could be of interest for Beckham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Allow me to vent. If he trades Beckham he better do a better job than the Addison Reed trade. Davidson appears to be a bust. Reed has 14 saves!!! It's like the Sox don't want to contend. How do you trade your only closer for Matt Davidson?? Ridiculous. The Sox would be in SO MUCH better shape right now; Hahn would be looking like a miracle worker right now if we had Reed. The Sox bullpen would be light years better just with a solid closer like Reed. If you trade Beckham, make it a good one, Hahn. Cause that Davidson trade totally pisses me off right now!! Bella trying to close out the Yankees two days ago was laughable. Sox should have won three of four vs. New York. Instead ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 25, 2014 -> 10:44 PM) Allow me to vent. If he trades Beckham he better do a better job than the Addison Reed trade. Davidson appears to be a bust. Reed has 14 saves!!! It's like the Sox don't want to contend. How do you trade your only closer for Matt Davidson?? Ridiculous. The Sox would be in SO MUCH better shape right now; Hahn would be looking like a miracle worker right now if we had Reed. The Sox bullpen would be light years better just with a solid closer like Reed. If you trade Beckham, make it a good one, Hahn. Cause that Davidson trade totally pisses me off right now!! Bella trying to close out the Yankees two days ago was laughable. Sox should have won three of four vs. New York. Instead ... Not even 2 months into the season. Relax man. Davidson is only 23 and they are saying that thumb injury might of impacted him negatively a little longer than expected. Like Hawk said when Gordon broke his wrist, it takes a while for that strength to come back in your hands and wrists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 26, 2014 -> 03:57 AM) Not even 2 months into the season. Relax man. Davidson is only 23 and they are saying that thumb injury might of impacted him negatively a little longer than expected. Like Hawk said when Gordon broke his wrist, it takes a while for that strength to come back in your hands and wrists. let me say, has anyone ever played ball with a finger/thumb injury, recovering from a broken bone. it takes time..... I don't care how good or manly you are to man up so to speak. however, let me further say, I am sure that a lot of poster / sox fan were happy when the trade was made. we all thought we needed a 3rd baseman and we needed prospects. well Davidson was not quite ready, whether it was b/c of injury, or skills, or head screwed on right .... he is not ready. look at his age as well. he will come around, if not this yr, then next, count on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 25, 2014 -> 10:44 PM) Allow me to vent. If he trades Beckham he better do a better job than the Addison Reed trade. Davidson appears to be a bust. Reed has 14 saves!!! It's like the Sox don't want to contend. How do you trade your only closer for Matt Davidson?? Ridiculous. The Sox would be in SO MUCH better shape right now; Hahn would be looking like a miracle worker right now if we had Reed. The Sox bullpen would be light years better just with a solid closer like Reed. If you trade Beckham, make it a good one, Hahn. Cause that Davidson trade totally pisses me off right now!! Bella trying to close out the Yankees two days ago was laughable. Sox should have won three of four vs. New York. Instead ... He may have 14 saves but past that (at least era wise) he's been no better than Lindstrom... who is now hurt....And the guy who probably had 2nd dibs a closer, Nate Jones, is also hurt. So the Sox are pretty much on closing option #3 here. How many teams out there if forced to use their 3rd different closer will be in a good situation? It's easy to say it hasn't worked in hindsight and without looking at all the sides to it, but that was absolutely a smart trade at the time. Not only did they get a guy who was viewed at the time as the #4 3B prospect in the league, but Hahn also seemingly had a plan for the bullpen. That plan, or so it appears, was to fill it with guys who don't give up the long ball. *STAT OF THE DAY* Addison Reed so far has given up 6 home runs in 22 innings. So far Lindstrom/Belly/Downs/Petrika/Putnam/Webb have given up a combined 6 HRs in 140 innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 25, 2014 -> 04:38 PM) Jim Duquette @Jim_Duquette 41m Anthopoulos just told us besides a starter he would like to find a mainstay at 2b or 3b, and possible some bullpen help @MLBNetworkRadio AA has always been asking about Beckham from the Sox. Now that he's hot, still relatively young, and has been having a good season, could this finally be the year they make a trade for Beckham? if Gordon was slated to be traded, which teams are in need of a 2b / 3b? tor, stl ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ May 26, 2014 -> 12:12 AM) if Gordon was slated to be traded, which teams are in need of a 2b / 3b? tor, stl ??? Toronto. Baltimore. San Fransisco (Scutaro hasn't played well). St. Louis (Unless they trust Wong). Yankees (Brian Roberts?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Beckham will likely be dealt this summer. We need to give Semien more ABs. What can we get back for Beckham? I'm thinking a Beckham deal would likely involve another MLB player and perhaps a pitching prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ May 26, 2014 -> 07:22 PM) Beckham will likely be dealt this summer. We need to give Semien more ABs. What can we get back for Beckham? I'm thinking a Beckham deal would likely involve another MLB player and perhaps a pitching prospect. Semien needs more minor league time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 26, 2014 -> 02:41 PM) Semien needs more minor league time Right now he just needs time somewhere. He has 17 PA's in 18 days since both Beckham and Gillaspie came back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 If Beckham sucks or Beckham is too expensive he will bring back nothing in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 26, 2014 -> 02:41 PM) If Beckham sucks or Beckham is too expensive he will bring back nothing in a trade. Well he has been good all season so far and AA has always been a Beckham fan and being rumored of wanting him the last 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_Ventura_Roberts Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I wouldn't be too fast to trade Beckman given his quality defense and given that he will have the stats of an above average offensive second baseman before the season is over. The same goes for Ramirez too. It isn't easy finding all around quality guys at those positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 17,075 on Memorial Day? REALLY? Were all of those fans Yankees' fans the last two days? DJ marketing the Chris Sale start hard, lol. Saying how he would buy a ticket if he wasn't already coming to the game. Great defensive play by Conor, two nice swings by Viciedo and Gillaspie to tack on some more runs hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 26, 2014 -> 01:46 PM) Well he has been good all season so far and AA has always been a Beckham fan and being rumored of wanting him the last 2 years. He's got to have these numbers consistently for at least 250 at-bats before he has much of any value. Unless another team's just completely desperate and overpays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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