TaylorStSox Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 30, 2014 -> 09:44 AM) Still trollin it hard today I see. It would be cool if there was a stat that tracked his posts that either incite or perpetuate an argument. I'd guess it's around .960, the vast majority of which are of the "quoted reply" variety. Boredom's gonna boredom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 30, 2014 -> 10:56 AM) That's 7 plate appearances against RHP you are accounting for, which is 6.8% of his plate appearances total against RHP. So, here's Hector Noesi: Against all teams other than the Chicago White Sox 40.2 IP, 4.46 ERA, 1.33 WHIP Against all teams including the Chicago White Sox 41.2 IP, 5.83 ERA, 1.51 WHIP That's 2.4% of his playing time this year. I'm not trying to get into an argument here, but if you're going to cherry pick, so can everybody else. I was trying to point out the sample size was way too small to come to any conclusion. And with Noesi are you using IP as a % or batters faced? I get it. A lot of people think Gordon sucks, want him to suck and are looking for signs that he will. Maybe it has been uncovered. I for one enjoy watching him play well. Edited May 30, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 30, 2014 -> 11:47 AM) I was trying to point out the sample size was way too small to come to any conclusion. And with Noesi are you using IP as a % or batters faced? For clarification purposes, I merely used the IP sample size for the White Sox versus his total IP sample size, but it's going to be a similarly small number either way. I agree that the sample size is too small to draw any conclusions either way and anything else is primarily conjecture and speculation (which are not bad things but are not definitive). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 This is why when you don't have the benefit of statistically significant performance samples, you have to rely on peripheral information. So like: Did Noesi gain velocity? He he appeared to gain stamina? Has he learned or mastered a new pitch? Or have balls just not been dropping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 30, 2014 -> 12:21 PM) This is why when you don't have the benefit of statistically significant performance samples, you have to rely on peripheral information. So like: Did Noesi gain velocity? He he appeared to gain stamina? Has he learned or mastered a new pitch? Or have balls just not been dropping? The White Sox spotted and fixed a flaw in his delivery,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 30, 2014 -> 12:31 PM) The White Sox spotted and fixed a flaw in his delivery,. There you have it. Reason to believe. BELIEVE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I've heard Beckham was discussed as lately as Tuesday. And he wouldn't go far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 31, 2014 -> 12:28 AM) I've heard Beckham was discussed as lately as Tuesday. And he wouldn't go far. As in trade to the Cubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 31, 2014 -> 12:28 AM) I've heard Beckham was discussed as lately as Tuesday. And he wouldn't go far. Can you please clarify on what you mean by "he wouldn't go far"? Are you saying the Cubs are the team interested in him? With Semien in the fold and both Sanchez & Johnson playing well at AAA (before injury), it seems like trading Beckham sooner rather later would be ideal from a development standpoint. Obviously at the point if the offers aren't what you like, you can hold off for a while. Glad to hear they are discussing moving him, because even though he's looked better recently, there is not long-term spot on this team with three of top prospects all pushing for major league playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) Beckham for Samardzija. Get 'er done Rick! LOL! What would the Cubs want with Beckham? Edited May 31, 2014 by South Side Fireworks Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 31, 2014 -> 12:28 AM) I've heard Beckham was discussed as lately as Tuesday. And he wouldn't go far. Vogelbach, Pierce Johnson, Alcantra all come to mind for Beckham. Just a few names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 31, 2014 -> 01:11 PM) Vogelbach, Pierce Johnson, Alcantra all come to mind for Beckham. Just a few names. The Cubs don't need Beckham though. My guess is STL. Within the next week here I think Baez will start playing 2B and be up sometime by July. They also have Alcantara. Beckham to the Cubs would make zero sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 31, 2014 -> 07:47 PM) The Cubs don't need Beckham though. My guess is STL. Within the next week here I think Baez will start playing 2B and be up sometime by July. They also have Alcantara. Beckham to the Cubs would make zero sense to me. I would love stl and A. Craig as the player. Craig is a 1b and you can play Jose and Craig as your DH and 1b. Craig make good contact / avg, and does have some power. he is young and good salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ May 31, 2014 -> 04:35 PM) I would love stl and A. Craig as the player. Craig is a 1b and you can play Jose and Craig as your DH and 1b. Craig make good contact / avg, and does have some power. he is young and good salary. Craig turns 30 in July, and his average strikeout total in a full season comes in around 100. He may very well be closer to the .250 hitter he has been this year than the .300 hitter he was last year with that strikeout total, and at that age he's probably not likely to get better than he is right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 The Cards aren't trading Craig for Beckham. Wong has been good for them of late as well. If it's the Cubs, it's probably to package him with Shark for a Blue Jays deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 31, 2014 -> 12:29 AM) As in trade to the Cubs? I'm thinking SD. That would have been just across the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Saw my guy last night at the game and he hears Sanchez up sooner than you think at SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 31, 2014 -> 04:56 PM) Saw my guy last night at the game and he hears Sanchez up sooner than you think at SS. OMG! We're getting Mike Trout! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ May 31, 2014 -> 05:52 PM) OMG! We're getting Mike Trout! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 31, 2014 -> 04:56 PM) Saw my guy last night at the game and he hears Sanchez up sooner than you think at SS. hmmm havent heard that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 31, 2014 -> 05:06 PM) I'm thinking SD. That would have been just across the field. I think Ventura loves Beckham so I do not think he is not going anywhere soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 31, 2014 -> 06:02 PM) hmmm havent heard that. I haven't been to the park this year as often as I have been in the past due to a respiratory issue I'm trying to beat back, but apparently Sanchez has a number of backers in the F.O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 31, 2014 -> 06:29 PM) I haven't been to the park this year as often as I have been in the past due to a respiratory issue I'm trying to beat back, but apparently Sanchez has a number of backers in the F.O. And why shouldn't he have backers in the F.O.? He's made the adjustment, after being fast tracked to AAA last year, when he struggled. He's the leading average hitter on the Knights, is a very good defensive second baseman, and is younger than league average. I think they consider him the future at 2nd. It wouldn't surprise me if M. Johnson is given a look in the outfield, when he returns from the D.L. Edited June 1, 2014 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Ramirez is off to his best start ever. Unless they get great value I'm not moving him due to his ties with the other Cuban players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 If you could combine Sanchez/Semien/Micah/Leury Garcia into one player, then you might have something. As it is, I wouldn't be surprised at all if only one of those guys was on the 2016 roster. We can hope all we want for 2-3, but history tells us to tamper down our expectations when it comes to our minor league hitting prospects. It's only when we find guys from other organizations (Quentin) or bring them in as international free agents (Ramirez, Viciedo and Abreu) that we've had any degree of success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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