2014 White Sox draft pick thread

[royoung]

The only person who said any day now was Rock. All other indications I've seen point to this taking a while, but there has been very little information available. If you read into what Hahn and Bell have said, they seem pretty resigned to this taking a while, and they are trying to prod him into getting it done faster.

 

Some positives out his holdout is that the White Sox would be limiting his innings this year anyhow and there is still plenty of baseball to be played at the signing deadline. Kris Bryant signed two days before the deadline last year and still played in 36 games and participated in the Arizona Fall League. It's probably better for the Sox to pay a bit more up front and delay his arbitration clock until next year or even the year after, assuming he will be as good as advertised.

[oldsox]

Wite told us last week that his signing was 99.9% certain. That's all anyone needs to know.

[witesoxfan]

Wite told us last week that his signing was 99.9% certain. That's all anyone needs to know.

 

99.9999%

[gatnom]

99.9999%

 

Six nines probability is pretty good.

 

 

[The Ultimate Champion]

Wite told us last week that his signing was 99.9% certain. That's all anyone needs to know.

wite's general opinion > Rock's sources

 

When bucket posts that Rodon is a done deal I will believe it.

[The Ultimate Champion]

Six nines probability is pretty good.

You have to leave in the chance that the entire globe erupts into nuclear warfare, destroying at least one if not both of Rodon/White Sox franchise.

Edited June 23, 2014 by The Ultimate Champion

[Soxfest]

This is all about Boras being BOR-ASS as usual playing his little games.

Edited June 23, 2014 by Soxfest

[NorthSideSox72]

This is all about Boras being BOR-ASS as usual playing his little games.

By playing his little games, what you mean is trying to get more money for his clients.

 

People get mad about Boras' tactics, I get that. But this idea that he's doing it for fun or to piss people off makes zero sense. There is no foundation in reality for it. It does Boras no good to do what people seem to think he's doing.

 

[witesoxfan]

By playing his little games, what you mean is trying to get more money for his clients.

 

People get mad about Boras' tactics, I get that. But this idea that he's doing it for fun or to piss people off makes zero sense. There is no foundation in reality for it. It does Boras no good to do what people seem to think he's doing.

 

It's a frustrating tactic, but I have a hell of a lot of respect for the guy.

[Heads22]

Boras is doing what he is getting paid to do. He's gonna get a bigger cut the more his client gets. It's in his best interest to do this, and it's in Rodon's best interest to do this.

 

I don't know about 99.9999% that this gets done, but there's a very high chance that it does.

[Y2Jimmy0]

Boras is doing what he is getting paid to do. He's gonna get a bigger cut the more his client gets. It's in his best interest to do this, and it's in Rodon's best interest to do this.

 

I don't know about 99.9999% that this gets done, but there's a very high chance that it does.

 

 

Ehh. There's really not though. He will end up signing around the deadline for the same money that he could take today. It's not the old system. They can only offer so much and I bet it's been offered.

[Soxfest]

By playing his little games, what you mean is trying to get more money for his clients.

 

People get mad about Boras' tactics, I get that. But this idea that he's doing it for fun or to piss people off makes zero sense. There is no foundation in reality for it. It does Boras no good to do what people seem to think he's doing.

The difference between what Sox have offered and what he signs for IF he does sign at this point is very little money. Holding up the deal for a month not going to change Boras's cut or Rodon overall signing bonus much at all. If Rodon was a free agent I see holding out for the last dollar, that is not the case here at all. No real reason this is dragging out so long picks all around Rodon are signed to me this is Boras little games 101 IMO.

Edited June 24, 2014 by Soxfest

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

Ehh. There's really not though. He will end up signing around the deadline for the same money that he could take today. It's not the old system. They can only offer so much and I bet it's been offered.

 

I agree. He isn't going to get more than we can offer. And I can only assume we are offering everything we have left to get him. So at this point he hurting the reputation of his player, and reminding GMs why they may hate to deal with the guy.

[Chicago White Sox]

Ehh. There's really not though. He will end up signing around the deadline for the same money that he could take today. It's not the old system. They can only offer so much and I bet it's been offered.

This is simply a game of chicken right now. Boras is likely asking for every possible dollar above slot that doesn't require the loss of a draft pick, while the Sox are probably offering slot exactly. At some point, Boras will blink and Rodon will end up with slot or just above because they really don't have any leverage here, as going back to school would be an incredibly stupid decision. Like Wite said, the odds are 99.9% he signs.

[caulfield12]

This is simply a game of chicken right now. Boras is likely asking for every possible dollar above slot that doesn't require the loss of a draft pick, while the Sox are probably offering slot exactly. At some point, Boras will blink and Rodon will end up with slot or just above because they really don't have any leverage here, as going back to school would be an incredibly stupid decision. Like Wite said, the odds are 99.9% he signs.

 

 

Then again, if the White Sox were to lose another 4-5 in a row...it wouldn't put more pressure on the White Sox necessarily, but they (Boras/Rodon) would have that leverage of the fact that if he doesn't sign, it's going to be crushing news for an already depressed fanbase looking for some signs of hope (for the future) in the 2nd half.

[Balta1701]

Then again, if the White Sox were to lose another 4-5 in a row...it wouldn't put more pressure on the White Sox necessarily, but they (Boras/Rodon) would have that leverage of the fact that if he doesn't sign, it's going to be crushing news for an already depressed fanbase looking for some signs of hope (for the future) in the 2nd half.

These things have nothing to do with each other.

[Feeky Magee]

I'll be glad when he signs, a bit because he's really important for the future, but mostly so I don't have to see Boras spelled as Bor-ASS ever again.

 

(until free agency)

[gatnom]

I agree. He isn't going to get more than we can offer. And I can only assume we are offering everything we have left to get him. So at this point he hurting the reputation of his player, and reminding GMs why they may hate to deal with the guy.

 

But what if we aren't offering him everything we have? I can't blame Rodon for looking out for himself here. He might well blow out his elbow this year and never get another payday. The extra 100k or whatever might actually matter to him there.

 

 

[witesoxfan]

But what if we aren't offering him everything we have? I can't blame Rodon for looking out for himself here. He might well blow out his elbow this year and never get another payday. The extra 100k or whatever might actually matter to him there.

 

He could have to absolutely obliterate his left arm, Brien Taylor style, to never get another pay day playing baseball. Players with his talent will get chance after chance.

[gatnom]

He could have to absolutely obliterate his left arm, Brien Taylor style, to never get another pay day playing baseball. Players with his talent will get chance after chance.

 

I meant big payday, but what if his slider isn't all that special with a major league ball? There are tons of possibilities, though unlikely, that I can't fault him for getting as much as he can while he can.

 

 

[Balta1701]

I meant big payday, but what if his slider isn't all that special with a major league ball? There are tons of possibilities, though unlikely, that I can't fault him for getting as much as he can while he can.

Then why exactly did we draft him so highly?

[witesoxfan]

I meant big payday, but what if his slider isn't all that special with a major league ball? There are tons of possibilities, though unlikely, that I can't fault him for getting as much as he can while he can.

 

There's about 3 ways he doesn't get opportunities until he's at least 30:

 

-If his numbers are absolutely dreadful.

-He becomes incapable of pitching effectively ever again.

-He decides he doesn't want to anymore.

 

(these are not mutually exclusive events)

 

Either way, he's going to get like $6.17 mill guaranteed right now. It's really only hurting himself, but the thing Boras is best at is extracting the most out, even if it sacrifices job security and development.

[Balta1701]

There's about 3 ways he doesn't get opportunities until he's at least 30:

 

-If his numbers are absolutely dreadful.

-He becomes incapable of pitching effectively ever again.

-He decides he doesn't want to anymore.

 

(these are not mutually exclusive events)

 

Either way, he's going to get like $6.17 mill guaranteed right now. It's really only hurting himself, but the thing Boras is best at is extracting the most out, even if it sacrifices job security and development.

When people going into the draft talked a fair amount about how him being overworked hurt him this season, I think there's a solid case this swings both ways. He gets extra time off and doesn't work his arm too hard this year by waiting.

[gatnom]

There's about 3 ways he doesn't get opportunities until he's at least 30:

 

-If his numbers are absolutely dreadful.

-He becomes incapable of pitching effectively ever again.

-He decides he doesn't want to anymore.

 

(these are not mutually exclusive events)

 

Either way, he's going to get like $6.17 mill guaranteed right now. It's really only hurting himself, but the thing Boras is best at is extracting the most out, even if it sacrifices job security and development.

 

But how much money will he be making if he straight out busts? And how much development time is he really losing when most seem to think he can pitch out of the bullpen right now? I'm not saying it's necessarily the best decision, but I can't fault him like everybody here on their high horse.

 

 

[Kyyle23]

But how much money will he be making if he straight out busts? And how much development time is he really losing when most seem to think he can pitch out of the bullpen right now? I'm not saying it's necessarily the best decision, but I can't fault him like everybody here on their high horse.

 

Really, he would do that for like 3 months at the very longest. Did it hurt David Price's development? He isnt going to spend years in the pen, only a cup of coffee at the end of the year.