caulfield12 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Go for Cedderoth, 3rd time's a charm. Reetz would be nice, but don't think we can afford his demands. As it is, the Brewers are really going to have a hard time signing Harrison at 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:09 AM) Will the Sox face a potential penalty if they go over slot, IF they stay under their total allotment? As long as they don't go after total allotment, they are OK. The first dollar they go over starts a 75% fine. If they get more than 5% over their total allotment, then starts the draft pick losses. The Sox total this year is $9,509,700, meaning they could go $475,484 over their allotment, or $9,985,184, before they lose a draft pick. If they spent their full allotment they could go over, without hitting 5%, the true cost to the organization would be $832,097, including the fines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I like Oliver more I read. Good, potentially great stuff, maybe better than anyone left. Hasn't been able to put it together yet for whatever reason. DUI a day before the draft because he's apparently a moron but that should be a great negotiating tactic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 A couple local guys to keep an eye on today: Providence Catholic RHP Jake Godfrey and Libertyville C Evan Skoug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:19 AM) I like Oliver more I read. Good, potentially great stuff, maybe better than anyone left. Hasn't been able to put it together yet for whatever reason. DUI a day before the draft because he's apparently a moron but that should be a great negotiating tactic. People make mistakes. That doesn't mean he's a bad guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I'd get familiar with this list. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/top-20...p;vkey=news_mlb Some of this year's top college seniors are Stanford right-hander A.J. Vanegas (No. 152), Oregon State left-hander Ben Wetzler (No. 155) and Coastal Carolina left-hander Ben Smith (No. 175). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Okay so I am confused about the bonus rules here. Someone before posted that we have to offer 90% value of a given slot or we lose the pick. 1) Is this true? 2) If so, do we *have* to offer 90% slot value to the player we select with that pick, leaving the 10% sum for overslots? 3) If the above is not true, could we theoretically offer 10% slot value to the player we select, then offer 50% of the value to our #1 and the 40% remaining to our #2? So we can go up to but not over $100K on every pick from 11 on, and we also have an overage. So theoretically if we get enough underslot guys we can take BPA at #11 and use leftover pool money plus our overage, assuming we have pool money available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:28 AM) Darius Day out of Simeon as well. He's a supreme athlete. He singlehandedly beat my team when he was a freshman. Stealing bases and running all over the outfield like a gazelle. I saw Godfrey pitch against my HS team and velocity/command deteriorated after the first two innings. Just one outing but I was really underwhelmed by him. Was it this year? Godfrey had a pretty down year. He did beat Sandburg yesterday however. He used to be a Notre Dame commit and is now committed to LSU. I think he'll go pro though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:14 AM) As long as they don't go after total allotment, they are OK. The first dollar they go over starts a 75% fine. If they get more than 5% over their total allotment, then starts the draft pick losses. The Sox total this year is $9,509,700, meaning they could go $475,484 over their allotment, or $9,985,184, before they lose a draft pick. If they spent their full allotment they could go over, without hitting 5%, the true cost to the organization would be $832,097, including the fines. We shouldn't be worried about the fines, in fact that should become commonplace given the habits of the big market teams and the need for small market teams to compete with them in the draft. But the draft pick losses definitely need to be avoided, because those are pool losses as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:29 AM) Okay so I am confused about the bonus rules here. Someone before posted that we have to offer 90% value of a given slot or we lose the pick. 1) Is this true? 2) If so, do we *have* to offer 90% slot value to the player we select with that pick, leaving the 10% sum for overslots? 3) If the above is not true, could we theoretically offer 10% slot value to the player we select, then offer 50% of the value to our #1 and the 40% remaining to our #2? So we can go up to but not over $100K on every pick from 11 on, and we also have an overage. So theoretically if we get enough underslot guys we can take BPA at #11 and use leftover pool money plus our overage, assuming we have pool money available? No you don't have to offer within 90%. The Sox 3rd rounder is slotted at like $700k. They could easily draft a HS senior in rd 3 and pay him $100,000.00 if they wanted. Edited June 6, 2014 by Y2JImmy0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I'm still hoping for Reetz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:32 AM) No you don't have to offer within 90%. The Sox 3rd rounder is slotted at like $700k. They could easily draft a HS senior in rd 3 and pay him $100,000.00 if they wanted. Okay that's awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 But if you aren't within 90% and they don't sign to you lose shot at a compensation pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I just hope the next time the Marlins want to piss away a comp balance pick on an underwhelming relief pitcher they call us first. I can't believe that Hahn wouldn't hvae beaten that package. I just can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:38 AM) But if you aren't within 90% and they don't sign to you lose shot at a compensation pick? ^Someone please answer this one. I'm confused as to how this thing all works. We need $$$ for our 1 & 2, and I'd like an overslot guy at #11, how do we make this work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Hey bucket if you're in this thread, were there any indications that teh Sox talked to the Marlins about that pick they pissed away? Edited June 6, 2014 by The Ultimate Champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Okay so I am confused about the bonus rules here. Someone before posted that we have to offer 90% value of a given slot or we lose the pick. 1) Is this true? 2) If so, do we *have* to offer 90% slot value to the player we select with that pick, leaving the 10% sum for overslots? 3) If the above is not true, could we theoretically offer 10% slot value to the player we select, then offer 50% of the value to our #1 and the 40% remaining to our #2? So we can go up to but not over $100K on every pick from 11 on, and we also have an overage. So theoretically if we get enough underslot guys we can take BPA at #11 and use leftover pool money plus our overage, assuming we have pool money available? In the first three rounds, if you offer at least 90% of slot value to a pick and he doesn't sign, you get an extra pick in next year's draft to make up for it. If the Sox only offer their 3rd round pick $100K and he doesn't sign, they will not get an extra pick next year to make up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:41 AM) In the first three rounds, if you offer at least 90% of slot value to a pick and he doesn't sign, you get an extra pick in next year's draft to make up for it. If the Sox only offer their 3rd round pick $100K and he doesn't sign, they will not get an extra pick next year to make up for it. Okay thank you. So this doesn't matter after Round 3 because no matter what we wouldn't get a pick back anyway. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Jason Parks @ProfessorParks 20s Frontline starter; top talent in draft, imo. RT @Dayshift34: @ProfessorParks What do you think Rodon's ceiling could be w/ the #whitesox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Given the knowledge bomb Hickory Huskers just dropped, I don't see why we'd go underslot at #3. Leave that to the Marlins. Give me Sands at 3 and 4+ can be undersluts I don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:46 AM) Given the knowledge bomb Hickory Huskers just dropped, I don't see why we'd go underslot at #3. Leave that to the Marlins. Give me Sands at 3 and 4+ can be undersluts I don't care. What's an underslut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:46 AM) Jason Parks @ProfessorParks 20s Frontline starter; top talent in draft, imo. RT @Dayshift34: @ProfessorParks What do you think Rodon's ceiling could be w/ the #whitesox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 4m Sources: GA HS LHP Mac Marshall has decided to attend college at LSU instead of going pro. Was a projected third-rounder. #MLBDraft Edited June 6, 2014 by Ozzie Ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 11:49 AM) What's an underslut? I dont think you can draft hoodrats, so they call them undersluts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 No idea on signability, but would love Keaton McKinney if they go pitching again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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