The Ultimate Champion Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:52 PM) most ambiguous draft analysis quote: "There's good baseball players and then there's bad ones. Somewhere in that mix is a guy the team drafted." Makes sense. You really don't know what you're getting and you don't really know if your drafted player is capable of making the progress you need him to make in order to play in the bigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:45 PM) Jokes. QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:45 PM) He's joking QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:49 PM) The sarcasm detector in this thread is apparently broken. Thought I missed something. QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:57 PM) Raw with upside, no problem with that pick either. Rodon is playing hard to get. Month my ass. Negotiations will start immediately & a shot at MLB time this year is a big deal for anyone. I forget who, but a poster last night said the Sox already had their lawyers on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:19 PM) Draft grades: http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/6/6/57863...014-first-round Chicago White Sox MLB DRAFT 2014 MLB Draft live draft tracker Here's the best left-hander ever selected third overall: Steve Avery. The second best is Brian Anderson, and I'm not even sure which one. Eighteen percent of the #3 picks never made the majors at all; 47 percent of #3 picks have a career WAR under 1. Yet the White Sox are going to pay close to $5.7 million for Rodon. It's like these teams are pretending the history of these picks doesn't exist. Horrible pick. Best-case scenario: Randy Johnson Middle-case scenario: Jeremy Affeldt Worst-case scenario: Brien Taylor Grade: F F really? WTF were we supposed to pick? BPA you stupid f***ing mouth breathing Neanderthals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 07:04 PM) Thought I missed something. I forget who, but a poster last night said the Sox already had their lawyers on it. It was Rock, so the exact poster you'd want to have made that claim ( or bucket, as well) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 07:06 PM) F really? WTF were we supposed to pick? BPA you stupid f***ing mouth breathing Neanderthals. Read the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 There;s someone in this draft named Skyler Ewing. What an odd ethnic convergence that must be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 02:06 PM) F really? WTF were we supposed to pick? BPA you stupid f***ing mouth breathing Neanderthals. QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:49 PM) The sarcasm detector in this thread is apparently broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 So these are the players the cubs saved their money for: Jacob Steele 6'1" 180lbs DOB: 07/11/95 | Scouting video Not since 1999, when the Braves took Matt Butler in the second round, has a Mississippi high school pitcher signed out of the first five rounds of the Draft. A lefty with a loose, quick arm, Steele should end that drought this June. Steele baffled scouts at the East Coast Professional Showcase last summer, when he ran his fastball into the low 90s but later dipped to the mid-80s. He has done a better job of holding his velocity this spring, working at 88-92 mph and reaching back for 94-95 on occasion. He's better when he throws with less effort in his delivery and gets more quality life on his heater. Steele's curveball used to stick out more for its shape than its velocity, but he has boosted it from the upper 60s to the low 70s as a senior. His changeup has some movement, but the Southern Mississippi recruit tips it off by slowing his arm speed and doesn't trust it much. Though he's athletic, his lack of size and true command could have him destined for the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:38 PM) Zach Thompson: 6'7" 210lbs DOB: 10/23/93 Thompson is fairly new to pitching, but already has the plus velocity that many scouts look for. Thompson’s fastball will sit in the low to mid 90s and touch 96 mph but comes in straight too often, especially when he leaves it up. He also throws a changeup, curveball and slider, and all three will need a good amount of development in pro ball to become consistent weapons. He does have decent command of his pitches and has shown a willingness to go right after hitters, which could help his stuff play up. Although raw, especially for a college arm, Thompson should intrigue teams with his frame and arm strength. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2014/drafttracker.jsp Sounds like Danny Wright. Big kid. Live arm. Raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 02:06 PM) F really? WTF were we supposed to pick? BPA you stupid f***ing mouth breathing Neanderthals. I don't man, Brian Anderson sucked. Especially if it was the one who played for us. I think it's valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 02:07 PM) Read the article. Why would anyone want ot do that? I just clicked it, because you told me to, and immediately saw they rated the Astros pick of Aiken as an F. Okay, I just gave that website a click for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 02:06 PM) It was Rock, so the exact poster you'd want to have made that claim ( or bucket, as well) That's who it was, just couldn't remember for the life of me. Rock knows his s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 02:09 PM) So these are the players the cubs saved their money for: Jacob Steele 6'1" 180lbs DOB: 07/11/95 | Scouting video Not since 1999, when the Braves took Matt Butler in the second round, has a Mississippi high school pitcher signed out of the first five rounds of the Draft. A lefty with a loose, quick arm, Steele should end that drought this June. Steele baffled scouts at the East Coast Professional Showcase last summer, when he ran his fastball into the low 90s but later dipped to the mid-80s. He has done a better job of holding his velocity this spring, working at 88-92 mph and reaching back for 94-95 on occasion. He's better when he throws with less effort in his delivery and gets more quality life on his heater. Steele's curveball used to stick out more for its shape than its velocity, but he has boosted it from the upper 60s to the low 70s as a senior. His changeup has some movement, but the Southern Mississippi recruit tips it off by slowing his arm speed and doesn't trust it much. Though he's athletic, his lack of size and true command could have him destined for the bullpen. I don't know what the hell they're up to. Overall I've probably been more positive about their overall plan than most but this draft for them is beyond bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 at 6'7" 210 this dude is probably wire thin, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 02:11 PM) at 6'7" 210 this dude is probably wire thin, right? That is Jack Mcdowell/Chris Sale territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 07:11 PM) I don't know what the hell they're up to. Overall I've probably been more positive about their overall plan than most but this draft for them is beyond bizarre. To me, they didn't like any real players at 4, so they took best bat available as a trade chip. Schwarber will probably be good, but he'll likely be a really good trade chip too (though he may eat himself into a DH position). But the rest of the draft has been bizarre. I would have imagined a bunch of lottery tickets but this just looks like saving money on the draft this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 The Cubs are just being smarter than everyone else again, that's all. This is what happens when the video game master stops playing with all the cheat codes on. Level the playing field and oh hey look Theo actually isn't a genius anymore. Who'da thunk it. Not me. Okay me, I did, I knew it all along. Cubs didn't though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 From now on, all bad jokes must be coded with spoiler tags. That solves two problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Five picks away from Sox 6RD pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Lets hope some of these guys fall to the Sox: Keith Weisenberg - RHP Micheal Cantu - 1B/C/3B JJ Schwarz - C Bryce Montes de Oca - RHP David Peterson - LHP Kel Johnson - OF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 07:17 PM) Lets hope some of these guys fall to the Sox: Keith Weisenberg - RHP Micheal Cantu - 1B/C/3B JJ Schwarz - C Bryce Montes de Oca - RHP David Peterson - LHP Kel Johnson - OF I feel like 'JJ's have high MLB success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 02:07 PM) Read the article. Didn't read it because I'm on my phone at work. Lol my bad I was gona say damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 southsider2k5 thinks he is funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 02:13 PM) To me, they didn't like any real players at 4, so they took best bat available as a trade chip. Schwarber will probably be good, but he'll likely be a really good trade chip too (though he may eat himself into a DH position). But the rest of the draft has been bizarre. I would have imagined a bunch of lottery tickets but this just looks like saving money on the draft this year. If I were Theo I would have drafted Jeff Hoffman and sign under slot and draft best pitcher on the board for the next four rounds, giving me some much needed pitching depth. Edited June 6, 2014 by Joshua Strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jun 6, 2014 -> 01:06 PM) F really? WTF were we supposed to pick? BPA you stupid f***ing mouth breathing Neanderthals. rofl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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