southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Time to start moving the conversations over, and kill the last year thread. Here is to Melo, Love and titles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Honestly, look at what Celtics fans believe can land Love vs. Bulls fans. Bulls fans are prepared to trade their 2 time all star center, starting 3 and 4 for love and Celts fans think Jared Sullinger and some draft picks are enough. AND IT PROBABLY IS. https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/479272762465214465 Edited June 18, 2014 by bmags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 If it's on the Bleacher Report, it must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) I am not a Gar/Pax hater, but if they fail to land the big one this year, it is a pattern. Trying is great, but that's for kids. Results are all that matters. If they can't land the big names, it would be time for Jerry and Michael Reinsdorf to hire someone who can. It really makes you wonder where this team would have been if they getting get crazy lucky getting DRose. Edited June 18, 2014 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 The Bulls are a perpetual runner up for everything. It gets old. They can't get anyone to come here from the top level. Again, hopefully they pull this off and prove me wrong this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 11:58 AM) I am not a Gar/Pax hater, but if they fail to land the big one this year, it is a pattern. Trying is great, but that's for kids. Results are all that matters. If they can't land the big names, it would be time for Jerry and Michael Reinsdorf to hire someone who can. It really makes you wonder where this team would have been if they getting get crazy lucky getting DRose. And I'll join the hate as well if they fail to land Love/Melo/Lebron or to a lesser extent Bosh/Parsons AND another solid guy. I think with Taj being told it's time for him to start it's a foregone conclusion that they will do something this offseason. It sucks this core was never healthy enough to see what they could have done but I just can't blame injuries on the FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Broussard and Bernstein (twitteR) reporting Bulls are Melo's #1. Need to just clear capspace to finish deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 02:34 PM) Broussard and Bernstein (twitteR) reporting Bulls are Melo's #1. Need to just clear capspace to finish deal. Lies. All lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Waiting for inevitable BREAKING: Carmelo Anthony Re-signs with Knicks for 5 year 110 million dollar deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 The Bulls were Lebron's #1 pick according to Broussard 4 years ago so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 02:45 PM) Waiting for inevitable BREAKING: Carmelo Anthony Re-signs with Knicks for 5 year 110 million dollar deal Bulls refuse to trade Luol Deng for Melo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 02:46 PM) The Bulls were Lebron's #1 pick according to Broussard 4 years ago so... Thought Broussard had Lebron to Miami the whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Re-reading the tweets, let me clarify, Bernstein's was the more definitive "Bulls #1, up to them to make it happen". Broussards said bulls are just very high on the list. #NBA source: "#Bulls are #1 on Carmelo's list. Up to them to make it happen." Must clear $15-17 MM cap space, possible sign/trade.— Dan Bernstein (@dan_bernstein) June 18, 2014 <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"> Edited June 18, 2014 by bmags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 02:47 PM) Thought Broussard had Lebron to Miami the whole time. Nope, he's a boob. I think Stephen A. Smith actually was the only one that was saying Miami the whole time, but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 08:52 PM) <!--quoteo(post=3001287:date=Jun 18, 2014 -> 02:47 PM:name=Brian)-->QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 02:47 PM) <!--quotec-->Thought Broussard had Lebron to Miami the whole time. Nope, he's a boob. I think Stephen A. Smith actually was the only one that was saying Miami the whole time, but I could be wrong. SAS said all 3 to miami but backtracked, but Broussard was the one that actually broke it a few days before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Man, with the new regime, this could be a very distinct possibility. http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23381...-Acquire-LeBron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 03:28 PM) Man, with the new regime, this could be a very distinct possibility. http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23381...-Acquire-LeBron LeBron isn't going anywhere other than Miami or Cleveland. Anywhere else and he would be crucified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 01:30 PM) LeBron isn't going anywhere other than Miami or Cleveland. Anywhere else and he would be crucified. I completely disagree. I don't see him going back to Cleveland. Just don't see him getting past the issues with the owner. I think Lebron is going to end up leaving and the Bulls would be foolish not to make a run; In fact, they should consider all options, including a sign and trade deal which would land both. Bottom line, everything should be on the table and the franchise should be moving to acquire stars at almost any cost. If the team were to do a Love deal, depending on the structure they will still have additional funds. I think Love / Melo should be a plan A2 with Love / Lebron a plan A1 and Lebron being plan A. If you can get Lebron, you do it. We have good depth, etc, and I think he's learned the importance of that and we also have an outstanding coach. I tend to think we end up with Love but I could be wrong. Don't see Melo leaving all that cash on the table which means Houston or NY are more likely choices (given no state income tax in Texas). Lebron is a guy who just might take less to come and in a pinch, we could probably even work out a sign and trade. Add Lebron without having to really gut your franchise and you could find yourself in an ideal situation. You do have to wait another year to bring our euro stud over though, but at least it is another long-term asset to add to the squad and to keep overall depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 03:33 PM) I completely disagree. I don't see him going back to Cleveland. Just don't see him getting past the issues with the owner. I think Lebron is going to end up leaving and the Bulls would be foolish not to make a run; In fact, they should consider all options, including a sign and trade deal which would land both. Bottom line, everything should be on the table and the franchise should be moving to acquire stars at almost any cost. If the team were to do a Love deal, depending on the structure they will still have additional funds. I think Love / Melo should be a plan A2 with Love / Lebron a plan A1 and Lebron being plan A. If you can get Lebron, you do it. We have good depth, etc, and I think he's learned the importance of that and we also have an outstanding coach. I tend to think we end up with Love but I could be wrong. Don't see Melo leaving all that cash on the table which means Houston or NY are more likely choices (given no state income tax in Texas). Lebron is a guy who just might take less to come and in a pinch, we could probably even work out a sign and trade. Add Lebron without having to really gut your franchise and you could find yourself in an ideal situation. You do have to wait another year to bring our euro stud over though, but at least it is another long-term asset to add to the squad and to keep overall depth. IF it were possible, ANY team that can get LeBron should move heaven and earth to do so. The problem is the guy has been murdered in the press and the court of public opinion for his going to Miami the way he did with Wade and Bosh. If he did it again to another franchise, he'd be called a quitter for deserting Miami, unless it was to go home. Realistically, I think the odds are about 90% Miami, 9% Cleveland, and 1% anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 03:38 PM) IF it were possible, ANY team that can get LeBron should move heaven and earth to do so. The problem is the guy has been murdered in the press and the court of public opinion for his going to Miami the way he did with Wade and Bosh. If he did it again to another franchise, he'd be called a quitter for deserting Miami, unless it was to go home. Realistically, I think the odds are about 90% Miami, 9% Cleveland, and 1% anywhere else. I think the odds are 99% Heat, 1% anywhere else. The only way he leaves is if Miami does absolutely nothing to improve the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 01:38 PM) IF it were possible, ANY team that can get LeBron should move heaven and earth to do so. The problem is the guy has been murdered in the press and the court of public opinion for his going to Miami the way he did with Wade and Bosh. If he did it again to another franchise, he'd be called a quitter for deserting Miami, unless it was to go home. Realistically, I think the odds are about 90% Miami, 9% Cleveland, and 1% anywhere else. I think if he went to Chicago (with no one else) it wouldn't be near as big of a deal as with the Heat situation where things were cherry picked. I don't think people would have jumped on him like they did with Miami had he signed with Chicago in the first place. Plus, Lebron flat out feels comfortable in his own shadow at this point. I think he is exhausted and doesn't like dealing with the complete lack of depth, etc, that calls for him to consistently carry teams in an era where many teams have multiple above average players, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 04:31 PM) I think if he went to Chicago (with no one else) it wouldn't be near as big of a deal as with the Heat situation where things were cherry picked. I don't think people would have jumped on him like they did with Miami had he signed with Chicago in the first place. Plus, Lebron flat out feels comfortable in his own shadow at this point. I think he is exhausted and doesn't like dealing with the complete lack of depth, etc, that calls for him to consistently carry teams in an era where many teams have multiple above average players, etc. It wouldn't have been nearly as big of a deal if he just went to another team in a vacuum, but he didn't. The thing is "The Decision" will play into TD2. If he is exhausted from the last time, he for sure won't be considering another organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 04:13 PM) I think the odds are 99% Heat, 1% anywhere else. The only way he leaves is if Miami does absolutely nothing to improve the team. The problem is, according to reports Wade wants to get his last big payday. If that happens, that really hurts Miamis ability to improve the team. And Lebron isn't dumb, he can see Wade falling off the cliff like we all can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Go back to Cleveland so we can see those fans all turn into hypocrites. Edited June 18, 2014 by Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 18, 2014 -> 04:35 PM) Go back to Cleveland so we can see those fans all turn into hypocrites. I mean, I think that's everywhere. I hate the guy and enjoy watching him lose, but if he came to Chicago i'd be happy as a clam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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