Buehrle>Wood Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Sounds like Cleveland is going to give Hayward max offer sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 12:43 PM) Sounds like Cleveland is going to give Hayward max offer sheet I like Hayward, but that's crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 12:12 PM) so who did it better?lol this looks like they scrambled to put it together overnight to not be completely over shot by the Bulls. Banners outside the UC > fathead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 12:43 PM) Sounds like Cleveland is going to give Hayward max offer sheet Yikes...i would have liked Hayward as a plan D (A-Melo B-Love C-Parsons) but not at more than 15M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 12:11 PM) Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 10m Free agent guard Ben Gordon has agreed to a two-year, $9 million deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells Yahoo Sports. Double yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAH Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Hayward's max is only $14M in his first year. Total of 4yr/63 mil deal. 15.75 a year. Year 1 - 14M Year 2 - 15.05M Year 3 - 16.18M Year 4 - 17.39M Total - 62.6M High but not a what you think of when for when its a MAX DEAL. Edited July 2, 2014 by bshah723 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (bshah723 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 12:57 PM) Hayward's max is only $14M in his first year. Total of 4yr/63 mil deal. 15.75 a year. Year 1 - 14M Year 2 - 15.05M Year 3 - 16.18M Year 4 - 17.39M Total - 62.6M High but not a what you think of when for when its a MAX DEAL. Still, plenty more than I think he's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 12:32 PM) I heard in the next 10-15 years Houston's population is supposed to pass Chicago's. As it probably should. No state tax, shorts and tshirt weather 8 months out of the year. Harsh winter here is 35 degrees, its usually around 40-50 during the winter. The beach is 45 minutes away. You've got the Astros, Rockets, Texans, and Dynamo all easily accessible and cheap to attend. Its actually pretty damn nice down here. I think Melo ends up with the Rockets or back to the Knicks for max money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 When is the salary cap official? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) When is the salary cap official? From what I can tell it's the 10th, after the "July Moratorium". It's expected to go up to 63 this year and 66 next year.....Luxury tax at 77/81. Edited July 2, 2014 by scs787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (TRU @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 01:09 PM) As it probably should. No state tax, shorts and tshirt weather 8 months out of the year. Harsh winter here is 35 degrees, its usually around 40-50 during the winter. The beach is 45 minutes away. You've got the Astros, Rockets, Texans, and Dynamo all easily accessible and cheap to attend. Its actually pretty damn nice down here. I think Melo ends up with the Rockets or back to the Knicks for max money. I would have thought Melo was a decent bet for Houston, but not anymore. I guess his meeting with them lasted about an hour and a half. Plus, I wonder how signing guys like Asik and Lin and then dealing them (Asik) or have one foot out the door (Lin) would sit with Melo. He would have to be concerned they would have zero problem moving him in the next year or 2 if they thought they could get that flavor of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (TRU @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 01:09 PM) As it probably should. No state tax, shorts and tshirt weather 8 months out of the year. Harsh winter here is 35 degrees, its usually around 40-50 during the winter. The beach is 45 minutes away. You've got the Astros, Rockets, Texans, and Dynamo all easily accessible and cheap to attend. Its actually pretty damn nice down here. I think Melo ends up with the Rockets or back to the Knicks for max money. Ah the hurricanes will blow you guys off the map eventually. And you hit on the winter, but the summers there are brutal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think there's no f***ing way he goes to the Rockets. What an awful fit that would be. How many basketballs do they play with down there? Salary cap space isn't there, just like with Bulls. As soon as Parsons is signed to an offer sheet, HOU is f***ed. There's no big 5 there - it's incredibly dubious that they can even keep Parsons if they want Melo. HOU is even more in need of a S&T than Chicago. Will he stick with the Knicks? That would make a lot of sense. Chicago is a better basketball situation with star power, depth, and personnel that makes it make sense to bring in a ball dominator like Melo. He gets to stay in the East, which appears to be the easier conference to play in. Chicago is a city with real culture and personality without some of the headaches of NY (I don't think paparazzi are going to follow Melo to dinner every night in Chi-town). Also, trading Jimmy Butler to open up 2 million in cap space ought to be a f***ing fireable offense. Sweet Jesus are there better ways to achieve that end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 10:11 AM) Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 10m Free agent guard Ben Gordon has agreed to a two-year, $9 million deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells Yahoo Sports. Wow. Talk about overpay. I figured he'd sign for very little cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 01:21 PM) I would have thought Melo was a decent bet for Houston, but not anymore. I guess his meeting with them lasted about an hour and a half. Plus, I wonder how signing guys like Asik and Lin and then dealing them (Asik) or have one foot out the door (Lin) would sit with Melo. He would have to be concerned they would have zero problem moving him in the next year or 2 if they thought they could get that flavor of the day. Well to be fair, I am pretty sure Asik and Lin are expiring contracts. Its not like they signed them and then traded them the following season. They are off the books after this season, at least im pretty sure thats the case. QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 01:22 PM) Ah the hurricanes will blow you guys off the map eventually. And you hit on the winter, but the summers there are brutal Houston is far enough inland that its pretty unlikely a hurricane would ever blow it off the map, and if you live in Katy like I do the worst you get is heavy rain and MAYBE some roof damage. The summers can be very brutal but I tend to not mind it so much when im in a pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 01:22 PM) Ah the hurricanes will blow you guys off the map eventually. And you hit on the winter, but the summers there are brutal Houston isn't on the gulf. It is about 45 minutes inland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 01:22 PM) Ah the hurricanes will blow you guys off the map eventually. And you hit on the winter, but the summers there are brutal Snow falls once probably every 10 years, otherwise it's mid 40's And the last hurricane was 6 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 01:27 PM) Wow. Talk about overpay. I figured he'd sign for very little cash. Followed this guy when the Bulls/Afflalo rumors were goin around.... Brian K. Schmitz @MagicInsider 4m Well, I guess if you're going to tank again, Ben Gordon is your go-to guy. Maybe I missed the big picture. I lol'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 You know a franchise is run poorly when they sign Ben Gordon to a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 07:21 PM) From what I can tell it's the 10th, after the "July Moratorium". It's expected to go up to 63 this year and 66 next year.....Luxury tax at 77/81. Is salary cap a grand calculation? I don't understand why teams can't be given more notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Looks like shooting is going to net a premium this offseason after the spurs. Makes me feel worse for Patty Mills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 11:47 AM) You know a franchise is run poorly when they sign Ben Gordon to a deal. I thought for sure he'd be signing for the vet min and I thought it would be with the Bulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 01:47 PM) Is salary cap a grand calculation? I don't understand why teams can't be given more notice. I can imagine they know somehow, it's raised after a league audit if that tells you anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (bshah723 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 12:57 PM) Hayward's max is only $14M in his first year. Total of 4yr/63 mil deal. 15.75 a year. Year 1 - 14M Year 2 - 15.05M Year 3 - 16.18M Year 4 - 17.39M Total - 62.6M High but not a what you think of when for when its a MAX DEAL. Hayward's not a $14 million/year player. I think I understand why an exec said Butler could get the max now. If Hayward can get a max, I don't see why Jimmy Butler can't. Edited July 2, 2014 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 07:51 PM) I can imagine they know somehow, it's raised after a league audit if that tells you anything. Gotcha, I'm hoping it's above even the 63. Read an article that the projected cap had been raised with each 3 prior audits (I guess they are done quarterly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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