2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 08:31 AM) Haven't agreed with you much in this thread but I will be super pissed if we draft Adams. Meh, it wouldn't be the worst pick at 19. Looking at a few different drafts if they go SG with the 2nd pick it probably comes down to Adams, Hairston, and Young. Adams was the most efficient of those scorers, and he's got great length (6'5" w/ 6'10 reach, Oladipo had a 6'9" reach).....I'm not sure how much stock to put into college PER, but his 28.7 ranks 5th in the draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 08:59 AM) Meh, it wouldn't be the worst pick at 19. Looking at a few different drafts if they go SG with the 2nd pick it probably comes down to Adams, Hairston, and Young. Adams was the most efficient of those scorers, and he's got great length (6'5" w/ 6'10 reach, Oladipo had a 6'9" reach).....I'm not sure how much stock to put into college PER, but his 28.7 ranks 5th in the draft class. It'd be an awful pick. He won't be able to score in the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 08:31 AM) He's still owed $15 million this year and is a free agent next year. The Rockets got the 2 cheap years out of him and someone else is paying the expensive year, and the rockets get a first rounder on top of that. They were able to sign Howard in no small part because Asik's first 2 years were cheap. Imagine the Bulls rework Gibson's contract so he's free this year, a max level next year, and the Bulls trade him for a first round pick and use that money to sign Anthony, have Gibson play for peanuts this year and contribute, and then trade Gibson away next year with the other team taking on the full salary for both seasons. I swear i heard on the radio yesterday that NBA contracts cannot be reworked like that per the current CBA. You get what you get, players and teams alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 09:01 AM) It'd be an awful pick. He won't be able to score in the NBA. Then why do some drafts even have him in the high 20s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 09:05 AM) Then why do some drafts even have him in the high 20s? Mock drafts, made by individuals, just like his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 09:08 AM) Mock drafts, made by individuals, just like his opinion. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 09:05 AM) Then why do some drafts even have him in the high 20s? Cause everyone has their own opinion. This happens to be mine and I feel pretty strongly about this one. QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 09:08 AM) Mock drafts, made by individuals, just like his opinion. Thank you Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I find that reasoning about Adams to be specious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 10:04 AM) I swear i heard on the radio yesterday that NBA contracts cannot be reworked like that per the current CBA. You get what you get, players and teams alike That was just a hypothetical to illustrate why giving up a first round pick for Asik is nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 09:04 AM) I swear i heard on the radio yesterday that NBA contracts cannot be reworked like that per the current CBA. You get what you get, players and teams alike Correct. Unless the player has an opt-out, they can not rework contracts like in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 If melo and Lebron want to go the west that's fine by me. The bulls as currently constructed would go to the finals every year in that scenario where anything can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 1 missed opportunity.... @WojYahooNBA Orlando is finalizing a trade to send guard Arron Afflalo to the Denver Nuggets, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 10:00 AM) 1 missed opportunity.... @WojYahooNBA Orlando is finalizing a trade to send guard Arron Afflalo to the Denver Nuggets, league sources told Yahoo Sports. So he's going back to the Nuggets...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 33s Orlando has agreed to send Arron Afflalo to Denver for Evan Fournier and 56th pick in 2014 Draft, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. That's all??? Fournier is better than Snell but you'd think Snell/19 might have got it done.....Wouldn't have been against Butler/19 either. That's a bad deal for the Magic IMO. Edited June 26, 2014 by scs787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 10:01 AM) That's all??? Fournier is better than Snell but you'd think Snell/19 might have got it done.....Wouldn't have been against Butler/19 either. That's a bad deal for the Magic IMO. Wow...that's a terrible deal and it's unimaginable how the Bulls couldn't top it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I am really going to sit here and say screw you Bulls in a couple weeks. Unbelievably awful. Maybe Orlando is trying to clear cap space and make a run at LBJ / Melo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 10:06 AM) Wow...that's a terrible deal and it's unimaginable how the Bulls couldn't top it. Ya this is a deal that I go back to and really hate as a Bulls fan if they don't manage to get Melo/Love/James/Bosh/Parsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 10:09 AM) Ya this is a deal that I go back to and really hate as a Bulls fan if they don't manage to get Melo/Love/James/Bosh/Parsons. Exactly. They better have something better up their sleeves. But I don't think anyone should get their hopes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 And it could be even worse..... Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA 5m Remember, Arron Afflalo was being mentioned as a piece that Denver wanted to acquire to improve their Kevin Love offer. This could be big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 So the stage is now set for the Bulls to fully strike out this summer. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 10:13 AM) And it could be even worse..... f*** YOU GARPAX. f*** YOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 10:14 AM) f*** YOU GARPAX. f*** YOU. I've been optimistic this whole time, but I'm starting to get a little worried.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 10:17 AM) I've been optimistic this whole time, but I'm starting to get a little worried.... I have had little reason for optimism. Lebron wont be coming here. Melo... i have high doubts. Love, no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Wow that's horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Frankly for those that though the Bulls were going to get things done without an issue, you've set yourself up for disappointment. The Bulls can only do so much. Players have to want to come here. For example, Melo, say there's a sign and trade possibility. If Houston offers Harden, Lin and someone else, what can the Bulls offer that would be better than that? Nothing. Done. End of story. Who can the Bulls offer that's better than Thompson for Love? No one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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