2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 03:08 PM) If you are Andrew Wiggins, is there any bright side to going to Minnesota? Is he supposed to jack up 30 shots a game and make a name for himself by averaging 20-30 points a game on a 10-win team? What do you do if you are Andrew Wiggins stuck in Minnie? The bright side is he has a better chance of becoming a superstar (thus make more $$$). Playing with Lebron and Kyrie he probably never really reaches that level. Minny should be a lot of fun to watch with Rubio dishing to Lavine and Wiggins. Edited August 7, 2014 by scs787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 QUOTE (TRU @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 03:12 PM) Everyone said the same stuff when the Heat got together, and yet they went to 4 straight Finals and won two rings. I see no reason this will be any different, especially since this Cavs team is better than those Heat teams even when you consider the east is a little better. The fact that they did lose twice is kind of the point. They aren't invincible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 03:39 PM) The fact that they did lose twice is kind of the point. They aren't invincible. Well, to the East they are if we want to go by that logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 09:01 PM) Kinda curious to see how the Bulls matchup with Waiters and Lebron when they're on the court.....Gotta have Butler or Snell on Lebron at least most of the time. Do they just let Waiters "get his" by putting DMD/MJD on him or go with a lot of Kirk or put Butler and Snell out there at the same time for the most part. I like Rose on Irving, Noah on Love, and Pau on Verajo. Um, yes, I would like a gameplan that puts pressure on Waiters to "get his" rather than pairing Mike Dunleavy on Lebron. I don't think anything of Waiters except it sucks now all he has to do is sit on the perimeter and rain 3s. He'll get paid after rookie contract doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 http://deadspin.com/dan-le-batard-suspende...dium=socialflow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Eh, would prefer they suspend Broussard for writing "SOURCES" for PR releases. Lebatard is who he is. Nobody should be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 QUOTE (TRU @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 03:12 PM) Everyone said the same stuff when the Heat got together, and yet they went to 4 straight Finals and won two rings. I see no reason this will be any different, especially since this Cavs team is better than those Heat teams even when you consider the east is a little better. Said the same stuff? I recall people like Jeff Van Gundy predicting them to break the wins records and everyone pretty much thinking they were a lock to win the finals until the season actually started and they started to look vulnerable. You had two superstars joining another superstar on a team that had made the playoffs the year before. This wasn't a normal thing. People are only reacting the way they are to the cavs because we have the Lebron, Wade, and Bosh experience to have a baseline to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 03:47 PM) Eh, would prefer they suspend Broussard for writing "SOURCES" for PR releases. Lebatard is who he is. Nobody should be surprised. I loved how after the LeBron SI story came out, Broussard tweeted something along the lines of "sources confirm SI story." Thanks Chris. And I agree about Lebatard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 QUOTE (Boogua @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 08:49 PM) Said the same stuff? I recall people like Jeff Van Gundy predicting them to break the wins records and everyone pretty much thinking they were a lock to win the finals until the season actually started and they started to look vulnerable. You had two superstars joining another superstar on a team that had made the playoffs the year before. This wasn't a normal thing. People are only reacting the way they are to the cavs because we have the Lebron, Wade, and Bosh experience to have a baseline to work with. Ha, well people on Soxtalk were saying the same stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 QUOTE (Boogua @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 03:49 PM) Said the same stuff? I recall people like Jeff Van Gundy predicting them to break the wins records and everyone pretty much thinking they were a lock to win the finals until the season actually started and they started to look vulnerable. Van Gundy is a moron. I still don't think some people understand how truly difficult it is to win 72 games. I don't think that record will be broken in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 03:50 PM) Ha, well people on Soxtalk were saying the same stuff. That's pretty surprising. I guess people thought the Celtics could still beat them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 03:45 PM) http://deadspin.com/dan-le-batard-suspende...dium=socialflow That is what gets you suspended on ESPN? That is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 03:51 PM) Van Gundy is a moron. I still don't think some people understand how truly difficult it is to win 72 games. I don't think that record will be broken in my lifetime. With so much of the league in a perpetual tank mode, it really gives you respect to the fact that the Bulls were able to win 70+ games. That didn't happen then, like it happens today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 03:54 PM) That is what gets you suspended on ESPN? That is a joke. Can't risk upsetting Bron Bron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 QUOTE (Boogua @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 08:54 PM) That's pretty surprising. I guess people thought the Celtics could still beat them? Celts/Lakers were cream of the crop back the.n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 What irritates me about this CLE talk is the stupid assumption that all of the best players on CLE will put up equivalent numbers to their previous seasons. If we learned nothing else from the Miami experiment, it's that somebody's going to take a big hit to their counting stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Bosh took a big hit and took off on offense to play stellar d and do the little things to win. Consequently, they still went to finals 4 straight years with one of them dropping off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxsoxsoxsox Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Boogua @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 03:49 PM) Said the same stuff? I recall people like Jeff Van Gundy predicting them to break the wins records and everyone pretty much thinking they were a lock to win the finals until the season actually started and they started to look vulnerable. You had two superstars joining another superstar on a team that had made the playoffs the year before. This wasn't a normal thing. People are only reacting the way they are to the cavs because we have the Lebron, Wade, and Bosh experience to have a baseline to work with. 27 wins in a row was pretty good. I don't think they ever cared about that stuff. They only cared about teh RANGZ. Edited August 7, 2014 by buhbuhburrrrlz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Wade in the two seasons before Big 3: 28.4 PPG, 7.0 AST, 4.9 TRB, 2.0 STL, 1.2 BLK .484 FG%/.568 TS% Kryie past two seasons: 21.6 PPG, 6.0 AST, 3.7 TRB, 1.5 STL, 0.3 BLK, .440 FG%/.543 TS% Bosh in the two seasons before Big 3: 23.3 PPG, 2.4 AST, 10.4 TRB, 0.7 STL, 1.0 BLK, .502 FG%/.580 TS% Kevin Love in the past two seasons*: 24.6 PPG, 4.0 AST, 12.8 TRB, 0.8 STL, 0.5 BLK, .439 FG%/.568 TS% *Only played 18 games in 2012-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I don't agree with people that this big 3 is better than the heat big 3, but is unfortunately deeper than the first year Miami had and Lebron is better than the first miami year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 07:59 PM) I don't agree with people that this big 3 is better than the heat big 3, but is unfortunately deeper than the first year Miami had and Lebron is better than the first miami year. I wonder if you'd have said that was true if Haslam hadn't been hurt for a lot of that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2014 -> 12:05 AM) I wonder if you'd have said that was true if Haslam hadn't been hurt for a lot of that year. Haslam was probably better healthy, but at the time miller was horrendous, he's playing much better now. I'd take Waiters/Thompson/Verajao/Thompson over Chalmers/Haslem/Anthony/Miller in 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 But I'd prefer none of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 So, with LaVine and Wiggins the TWolves are gonna have some fun highlights this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 7, 2014 -> 07:43 PM) So, with LaVine and Wiggins the TWolves are gonna have some fun highlights this year. They're going to win the NBA high jumping contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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