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QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Jan 11, 2015 -> 08:02 PM)
Can the Bulls beat Atlanta in a series?

 

 

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 11, 2015 -> 08:41 PM)
Not with the current versions of Noah/Rose.

 

All of their big men, Horford, Milsap, Antic, and Mike Scott play at the mid range. Gasol and Noah would have to move out of the paint to defend them. Jeff Teague runs a lot of drive and kicks, Rose would have to defend the pick and roll well without the help of a rim protector. So yea, I don't like the match up at all.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 11, 2015 -> 07:53 PM)
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and then watch Wiggins become a legit star, ROFL

 

It's the Cavs so I totally expect that to happen :D

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QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jan 11, 2015 -> 11:06 PM)
All of their big men, Horford, Milsap, Antic, and Mike Scott play at the mid range. Gasol and Noah would have to move out of the paint to defend them. Jeff Teague runs a lot of drive and kicks, Rose would have to defend the pick and roll well without the help of a rim protector. So yea, I don't like the match up at all.

 

I'm not worried about them. Only team I really don't think we matchup with well are the Wizards.

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QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jan 11, 2015 -> 11:51 PM)
and then watch Wiggins become a legit star, ROFL

 

It's the Cavs so I totally expect that to happen :D

 

And they'll probably win the draft lottery again in a couple of years somehow.

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QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 12:04 AM)
I'm not worried about them. Only team I really don't think we matchup with well are the Wizards.

 

Washington front court size could potentially give us some issues, but I think we would beat them handedly in last year's playoff with Gasol, Niko, and this version of Jimmy Butler, with or without Rose. The Wizards are largely the same team from last year, but replaced Ariza (who was huge in that series) with old man dbag Pierce.

 

On the other hand, I don't think Teague has been getting enough credit this season. He may be playing better than John Wall depends on how you look at it, and the duo of Horford and Milsap is heads and shoulders better than Gortat and Nene. Let's not forget they are actually under salary cap. I think it's highly likely they bring in a bench scorer like Kevin Martin at the trade deadline.

 

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QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 11:28 AM)
Washington front court size could potentially give us some issues, but I think we would beat them handedly in last year's playoff with Gasol, Niko, and this version of Jimmy Butler, with or without Rose. The Wizards are largely the same team from last year, but replaced Ariza (who was huge in that series) with old man dbag Pierce.

 

On the other hand, I don't think Teague has been getting enough credit this season. He may be playing better than John Wall depends on how you look at it, and the duo of Horford and Milsap is heads and shoulders better than Gortat and Nene. Let's not forget they are actually under salary cap. I think it's highly likely they bring in a bench scorer like Kevin Martin at the trade deadline.

 

Honestly, Atlanta is not getting credit because they are a boring market with no stars. I'm worried they are about to be the Memphis of the East, who basically stormed the western conference in 2010 when nobody thought they were that good.

 

They have not stopped winning. They play great D and offense. They made the Bulls look awful when they played.

 

And yes, what the bulls give up on D (15 footers to big men) are a strength for the Hawks.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 11:33 AM)
Honestly, Atlanta is not getting credit because they are a boring market with no stars. I'm worried they are about to be the Memphis of the East, who basically stormed the western conference in 2010 when nobody thought they were that good.

 

They have not stopped winning. They play great D and offense. They made the Bulls look awful when they played.

 

And yes, what the bulls give up on D (15 footers to big men) are a strength for the Hawks.

 

When watching the Hawks Wizards game yesterday, this was exactly what worried me, and we know Horford and Millsap are capable of doing that night in and night out.

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QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 11:48 AM)
When watching the Hawks Wizards game yesterday, this was exactly what worried me, and we know Horford and Millsap are capable of doing that night in and night out.

 

And if the perimeter D crashes down, they can pass out to great 3point shooting. Yeesh.

 

OTOH, if everything is tighter, if the guards crash on the pick and rolls harder, the bigs crash on the 15 footers harder, etc. The hawks don't have many players who can create space off the dribble. Teague will need to break down everyone, which maybe he can.

 

Basically, we hope the bulls have that extra gear we believe they have.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 11:58 AM)
And if the perimeter D crashes down, they can pass out to great 3point shooting. Yeesh.

 

OTOH, if everything is tighter, if the guards crash on the pick and rolls harder, the bigs crash on the 15 footers harder, etc. The hawks don't have many players who can create space off the dribble. Teague will need to break down everyone, which maybe he can.

 

Basically, we hope the bulls have that extra gear we believe they have.

 

I am still a bit bitter by how well Korver has been playing after he left the Bulls. 50-50-90 anyone?

 

I think the East is lucky that they don't have a Curry, Durant or even a Derrick Rose who can take over in the 4th quarter. IMO that's what holds them back from being a true favorite.

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QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 01:11 PM)
I am still a bit bitter by how well Korver has been playing after he left the Bulls. 50-50-90 anyone?

 

I think the East is lucky that they don't have a Curry, Durant or even a Derrick Rose who can take over in the 4th quarter. IMO that's what holds them back from being a true favorite.

There's a Lebron

 

edit: nevermind, I think you meant Atlanta as the "they" there, I thought you meant the East.

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QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 08:11 PM)
I am still a bit bitter by how well Korver has been playing after he left the Bulls. 50-50-90 anyone?

 

I think the East is lucky that they don't have a Curry, Durant or even a Derrick Rose who can take over in the 4th quarter. IMO that's what holds them back from being a true favorite.

 

i don't know, it seems as this is not the same Rose that came in, in his rookie campaign. maybe

it is me.

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QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 01:14 PM)
i don't know, it seems as this is not the same Rose that came in, in his rookie campaign. maybe

it is me.

 

As much as it hurts watching this 8 game stretch after believing he was pretty much back, I will say that when the games have been close late, Drose had no problem getting to the basket when we Iso'd him.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 08:17 PM)
As much as it hurts watching this 8 game stretch after believing he was pretty much back, I will say that when the games have been close late, Drose had no problem getting to the basket when we Iso'd him.

 

but he can't create that himself as he use to. don't get me wrong, his injuries were severe, but lets

not wear blinders on him.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 12, 2015 -> 08:35 PM)
ISO plays are the definition of creating for yourself.

 

well, i can see it ...... oh screw it, i made the mistake of thinking about something else. i

lost my train of thought.

 

thanks for correcting me.

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