Buehrle>Wood Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 09:07 PM) Is he really into drugs or something? He got busted for weed which is why he had to turn pro. Or he faced a full year suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 10:04 PM) We weren't taking 2 US picks. We were either taking one guy and then stashing a Euro player or trading the pick anyway. Bulls are really high on McDermot and I still don't even know if he stays in Chicago or not. All I know is he was a great scorer / shooter in college so could be a nice 4th or 5th starter (good scorer off the bench). Maybe he turns into more but the options were always having the Bulls get 1 guy who would end up being on a roster this year. I don't like the idea of trading in these situations either and would have rather just made who the Bulls thought were best at the two spots too but I do have faith in the Bulls scouting. They took Anthony Randolph back in that deal so they didn't save money and they could have taken two USA players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 07:12 PM) I'm not a huge fan of Shabazz, honestly. Seems like the typical undersized guard that goes off in college and is forgotten as a pro Seems like a really low risk pick. Vet point guards get slept on and he could very well turn into a solid role playing pg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 07:28 PM) I'm guessing Anthony is just a nice expiring piece for a s&t. He's not an indication that melo isn't coming. Melo's&t reputation for being about he money is the sign that melo isn't coming. Ditto. Find it laughable that people think McDermott means we aren't all in for Melo. Team is clearly all in for Melo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 On a side note, I'm really excited to see what we get from Mirotic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 07:44 PM) Why in the world would Toronto do that just on the hope of getting an inferior player in Bosh back Probably cause Lowry has told him he isn't coming back so they have no choice but to facilitate for a pick or two or just let him go somewhere else anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 07:58 PM) Norris Cole and late first rounders at best for Lowry? That's an awful deal What leverage does Toronto have? Lowry is a FA. This is a S&T, not a normal trade. Edit: Sorry, i looked like an ass with my initial response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 08:06 PM) Twitter said it didn't save any money. 350K I believe. Again, not a lot but still something. This is presuming Randolph doesn't stick around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 08:09 PM) They took Anthony Randolph back in that deal so they didn't save money and they could have taken two USA players. Presume they think it will be easy to dump Randolph. Foresight people…foresight. That or someone, maybe the Knicks, want this Randolph fellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 08:12 PM) On a side note, I'm really excited to see what we get from Mirotic Still a lot of scenarios out there with him not coming back. An interesting thing is there are some reports this week that Nik makes a hell of a lot less in the Euro league then anyone thinks. He also had a falling out recently and hasn't been playing many minutes (or all that good). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I'm going to make a Jordan type comment but all of you better be eating a shoe when the Bulls land Melo this offseason. Get ready…it is happening. PS: This is not the return, proposed by Steve either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 10:13 PM) What leverage does Toronto have? Lowry is a FA. This is a S&T, not a normal trade. Edit: Sorry, i looked like an ass with my initial response. If that's the going rate, I'd take him on the Bulls. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 08:18 PM) If that's the going rate, I'd take him on the Bulls. Seriously. I would to, however, he also has to be interested in signing with the Bulls, which I presume he wouldn't be (why would he want to play 2nd fiddle to Rose?). How about the Knicks just sending us Melo in a S&T now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Brian's boy finally off the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Of players under Bulls control, there are some nice floor spacers: -McBuckets -Dunleavy -Mirotic -Snell Guys we had around last year and wouldn't be that hard to get back: -Augustin -Fredette And I think Jimmy will end up being an asset in that regard as he gets better and pares down his shot amount with the team around him improving. I don't think it would be too difficult to bring in some other shooters on the cheap as well. Disappointed to see some of the good shooting wings off the board early in the second, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 10:01 PM) Despite all the b****ing on this board, this front office has proven the fact that it has historically been exceptional at drafting. Ill be the one to say it, but the Bulls have not been exceptional. The last 2 drafts they got Snell and Teague respectively. Sure they got Butler, but that was already back in 2011. In 2010 they got James Johnson and Taj Gibson (50% hit rate) and Im pretty sure if you pull up the draft thread youll see me saying things about Gibson being a steal. I wont even talk about the abortions before Noah. You guys have way more faith in a franchise that has been to the EC Finals 1 time since 1998. Color me skeptical. (edit) Sure if the Bulls get Melo this all changes, but I remember when the Bulls were getting T-Mac, Kobe and every other FA since 1998. Edited June 27, 2014 by Soxbadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Complete 100% homer in me, but I'd like to see the Bulls take one of the Mizzou guards with their second rounder. Jabari Brown would be a nice shooter to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Holy s*** that guy is massive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 26, 2014 -> 08:22 PM) Ill be the one to say it, but the Bulls have not been exceptional. The last 2 drafts they got Snell and Teague respectively. Sure they got Butler, but that was already back in 2011. In 2010 they got James Johnson and Taj Gibson (50% hit rate) and Im pretty sure if you pull up the draft thread youll see me saying things about Gibson being a steal. I wont even talk about the abortions before Noah. You guys have way more faith in a franchise that has been to the EC Finals 1 time since 1998. Color me skeptical. (edit) Sure if the Bulls get Melo this all changes, but I remember when the Bulls were getting T-Mac, Kobe and every other FA since 1998. You do realize every team will have misses? Bulls have consistently hit at a much higher percentage then the rest of the league. It isn't even close. Butler / Taj / Asik / Nik / Sefolosha / Deng / Gordon / Hinrich / Rose / Noah / etc Note: Tyrus Thomas was the one massive debacle and really the only debacle under this admin. Jay Williams I won't blame anyone on since he would have been very good but I also don't remember if that was Paxson or not (think it was). Also, I am not writing Snell off yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 FYI - McDermott excelled last year practicing with Team USA. Tons of people raved about him (also Hayward). Below are some stats from this past college basketball season (points per possession): Catch and Shoot: 1.312 PPP Off Screens: 1.444 PPP Off the dribble: 1.154 PPP Ranked 1st in all three categories. No idea if Thibs can teach him defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Chicago needs more Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 No issue with that pick. Probably never plays but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yeah that guys getting cut. He did average 20 and 7. That's nice I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Clarkson went three picks before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord chas Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 This guy eligible for the D League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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