Buehrle>Wood Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Lol if that's true. I do doubt it though. Not even the Bulls FO is that dumb. Edited July 1, 2014 by Buehrle>Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 08:11 AM) Lol if that's true. I do doubt it though. Not even the Bulls FO is that dumb. They could be, who knows. Granted, I don't really believe any of these reports until something happens but it wouldn't shock me if keeping Taj is a must for them. They've done that with certain players before. Edited July 1, 2014 by Rowand44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 08:10 AM) Cowley is reporting that barring a S&T, the Bulls pitch to Carmelo will be to take $15 million so that they can keep Taj. I have been pretty supportive of GarPax this offseason. They should be fired if keeping Taj Gibson impedes them landing Anthony. Why do we overrate players so bad? It's f***ing Taj Gibson. Who cares. Get Melo his $20 million and do whatever it takes. Figure out the rest later. I highly doubt Cowley knows a damn thing about what's truly goin on. Bulls have contacted Paul Pierce....He wouldn't be a bad sign if they miss out on Melo. Still a pretty good 3 point shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 We have also contacted Caron Butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 08:10 AM) Cowley is reporting that barring a S&T, the Bulls pitch to Carmelo will be to take $15 million so that they can keep Taj. I have been pretty supportive of GarPax this offseason. They should be fired if keeping Taj Gibson impedes them landing Anthony. Why do we overrate players so bad? It's f***ing Taj Gibson. Who cares. Get Melo his $20 million and do whatever it takes. Figure out the rest later. Thats not the whole thing, it is basically "If you want all the money, we have to work out a S&T and include Taj, if you want Taj to stay then you will have to take less" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I wonder if Carmelo knows who Taj Gibson is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 08:32 AM) I wonder if Carmelo knows who Taj Gibson is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) When I made that post I totally feared someone replying with a video of one of Taj ' s epic posterizations and it happened to be on Melo. Funny it's the other way around. Edited July 1, 2014 by Buehrle>Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 08:38 AM) When I made that post I totally feared someone replying with a video of one of Taj ' s epic posterizations and it happened to he on Melo. Funny it's the other way around. Lol that's what I was looking for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 5 year $90 mil max extension for Kyrie Irving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 08:59 AM) 5 year $90 mil max extension for Kyrie Irving. well earned (eye roll smily) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Kyrie Irving - 5 for 90 Steph Curry - 4 for 44 Steph curry is getting half as much as Kyrie. The NBA's max salary is such a bizarre phenomenon. Most of the best players in the league are getting paid less than max, and the next 10-15 are getting paaaiiiidddd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 08:10 AM) Cowley is reporting that barring a S&T, the Bulls pitch to Carmelo will be to take $15 million so that they can keep Taj. I have been pretty supportive of GarPax this offseason. They should be fired if keeping Taj Gibson impedes them landing Anthony. Why do we overrate players so bad? It's f***ing Taj Gibson. Who cares. Get Melo his $20 million and do whatever it takes. Figure out the rest later. I personally think Taj is underrated. He never received consistent minutes with Boozer here, but when Boozer was out and Taj started, he was nearly a 20/10 guy (granted he played a ton of minutes those games). Add that output to his elite defensive abilities and if starting, he is definitely a very valuable player. If I am the Bulls, I am trying everything in my power to add Melo while keeping Taj. If you add Melo, Taj's defensive versatility can really help compensate Melo's lack of defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 02:15 PM) I personally think Taj is underrated. He never received consistent minutes with Boozer here, but when Boozer was out and Taj started, he was nearly a 20/10 guy (granted he played a ton of minutes those games). Add that output to his elite defensive abilities and if starting, he is definitely a very valuable player. If I am the Bulls, I am trying everything in my power to add Melo while keeping Taj. If you add Melo, Taj's defensive versatility can really help compensate Melo's lack of defense. Agreed, you at least explore the option. Let's all realize that the starting PF would be atrocious next year with Taj gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 You don't explore that option by telling Carmelo he needs to take a paycut. And they still have Mirotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 02:25 PM) You don't explore that option by telling Carmelo he needs to take a paycut. And they still have Mirotic. You lay out the scenarios for him. He can take 15 and have a much better chance of a championship, or we'll pay him 22 and have more holes in the roster. We have no idea what Mirotic is, but a stretch 4 who had 4 rebounds in 4 games in the finals doesn't scream much more than Luis Scola ceiling to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 And that's how you miss out on superstars, by not treating him like one. Mirotic will be fine. If Melo, Noah and Rose are all in play it's really not much of a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:15 AM) I personally think Taj is underrated. He never received consistent minutes with Boozer here, but when Boozer was out and Taj started, he was nearly a 20/10 guy (granted he played a ton of minutes those games). Add that output to his elite defensive abilities and if starting, he is definitely a very valuable player. If I am the Bulls, I am trying everything in my power to add Melo while keeping Taj. If you add Melo, Taj's defensive versatility can really help compensate Melo's lack of defense. Taj is pretty good. I feel like people think he's some 24 year old up an comer though. He was like 24 when he was drafted. He will be 29 this year. Not a chance in hell Melo takes something like 4 years $60 million so that Taj Gibson can remain a Bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:15 AM) I personally think Taj is underrated. He never received consistent minutes with Boozer here, but when Boozer was out and Taj started, he was nearly a 20/10 guy (granted he played a ton of minutes those games). Add that output to his elite defensive abilities and if starting, he is definitely a very valuable player. If I am the Bulls, I am trying everything in my power to add Melo while keeping Taj. If you add Melo, Taj's defensive versatility can really help compensate Melo's lack of defense. He's a good player and great defensively but he is mediocre offensively and not a great rebounder. He is a really solid piece but he shouldn't be untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'm wondering if someoe like Gasol might not be the "if we move Gibson we can add this guy without losing that much" option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 08:10 AM) Cowley is reporting that barring a S&T, the Bulls pitch to Carmelo will be to take $15 million so that they can keep Taj. I have been pretty supportive of GarPax this offseason. They should be fired if keeping Taj Gibson impedes them landing Anthony. Why do we overrate players so bad? It's f***ing Taj Gibson. Who cares. Get Melo his $20 million and do whatever it takes. Figure out the rest later. Its not about overrating Taj, it is about offering Anthony the best possible supporting cast. I'd bet if Melo said I want $20 million, they trade Taj and make room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 08:27 AM) Thats not the whole thing, it is basically "If you want all the money, we have to work out a S&T and include Taj, if you want Taj to stay then you will have to take less" Exactly, which makes perfect sense. If he leaves NYC, it is because he wants to win. What good does it to him to leave to a stripped down team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 06:10 AM) Cowley is reporting that barring a S&T, the Bulls pitch to Carmelo will be to take $15 million so that they can keep Taj. I have been pretty supportive of GarPax this offseason. They should be fired if keeping Taj Gibson impedes them landing Anthony. Why do we overrate players so bad? It's f***ing Taj Gibson. Who cares. Get Melo his $20 million and do whatever it takes. Figure out the rest later. My understanding is the Bulls are going to pitch multiple offers, including the fact that their plan A is to get Knicks to agree to S&T and under that capacity, I believe there are scenarios we can offer him ~$20M (without trading Boozer) while keeping Taj and Jimmy Butler. Question is will Knicks do it. I think the gist of everything is Bulls are going to land out multiple scenarios, however, I think the only way Melo comes is through a S&T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 06:32 AM) I wonder if Carmelo knows who Taj Gibson is. He's Noah's boy and the two of them will be the primary pitch guys during the meeting. I'm going to guess Taj and Melo have talked previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:46 AM) My understanding is the Bulls are going to pitch multiple offers, including the fact that their plan A is to get Knicks to agree to S&T and under that capacity, I believe there are scenarios we can offer him ~$20M (without trading Boozer) while keeping Taj and Jimmy Butler. Question is will Knicks do it. I think the gist of everything is Bulls are going to land out multiple scenarios, however, I think the only way Melo comes is through a S&T. By far the best way for him to come to Chicago is a S&T with Boozer and picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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