Dick Allen Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ May 21, 2015 -> 10:15 AM) Wow what a market out there for him. No leverage hurts. Everyone knows he's gone. I wonder if Thibs will mess with them and take a year off while the Bulls are paying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ May 21, 2015 -> 08:15 AM) Wow what a market out there for him. If the Bulls had any real intention of keeping him, I could assure you they would get a 1st round pick. Problem is, everyone knows that he's gone, so Bulls lost all their leverage in this public battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 QUOTE (Boogua @ May 21, 2015 -> 10:17 AM) Everybody knows the Bulls are going to get rid of him regardless. Why would they offer anything above that? You would think the ability to have exclusive access to him would be worth more, instead of having to compete with everyone else in a bidding war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 21, 2015 -> 10:02 AM) According to KC Johnson, about the best the Bulls could do in a trade for Thibs is a 2nd round pick. Fine, I'd take that. You can get value in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 21, 2015 -> 10:33 AM) You would think the ability to have exclusive access to him would be worth more, instead of having to compete with everyone else in a bidding war. If you could trade him like a player, this would be true, but it's not like they could trade him anywhere and that is where he must coach. It really isn't a trade. It's compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 21, 2015 -> 10:18 AM) No leverage hurts. Everyone knows he's gone. I wonder if Thibs will mess with them and take a year off while the Bulls are paying him. I think that goes against every strand of Thibs DNA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 The other thing to remember is that any team taking Thibs is doing the Bulls a favor by preventing the Bulls from paying 2 coaches at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Comcast SportsNet @CSNChicago 51m51 minutes ago #Bulls' Pau Gasol honored with spot on All-NBA second team - http://bit.ly/1Sj7Q2T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 21, 2015 -> 12:21 PM) The other thing to remember is that any team taking Thibs is doing the Bulls a favor by preventing the Bulls from paying 2 coaches at once. The only way they pay 2 coaches at once is if Thibs doesnt coach next season, so the bulls are in pretty good shape unless Thibs goes into a cave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 FanSided @FanSided Tom Thibodeau wants to stay with #Bulls, according to @FanSided's @thecarm: https://fansided.com/2015/05/20/bulls-thibo...eated-downfall/ … 1:39 PM - 21 May 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I wonder if the Bulls bring in someone like Doug Collins to help groom Hoiberg and I wonder if Collins would have any desire. If he ever did, I have to presume the Bulls and Reinsdorf would be the one franchise he'd be willing to do it for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 James Harden just s*** his pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 QUOTE (DBAHO @ May 20, 2015 -> 11:33 PM) You'd probably have to trade say Mirotic to Sacramento for the 6th pick, and then do a swap of 4/6 somehow. Don't think the Knicks would be interested in anyone other than Butler really. If the Knicks do stay at 4, and Mudiay is on the board still, do the Knicks pick him. He doesn't exactly fit the mould of a Triangle Offense kind of PG, although he is big enough. Ya, no thanks on that first part. Mundiay looks like a baller but I'm not trading Niko for a guy who might not pair well with Rose while also killing the potential spacing that Niko could bring to the team.. Question for those who watch more college ball than I do (Though I'm not sure people watch Georgia St.)...Is R.J. Hunter legit or is he the next Doug McDermott? Looking at mocks and videos I think he's the guy I'm hoping to drop to the Bulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 SportsCenter @SportsCenter 38m38 minutes ago BREAKING: Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak says next season will be Kobe Bryant's last with the Lakers. http://es.pn/1SoKqcy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Not sure bulls should be making long-term decisions based off of rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ May 22, 2015 -> 02:47 PM) Not sure bulls should be making long-term decisions based off of rose. They pretty much have to, he's under contract as a $20 million player the next 2 years. "Not making decisions around Rose" = "mailing it in the next 2 seasons". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 22, 2015 -> 01:51 PM) They pretty much have to, he's under contract as a $20 million player the next 2 years. "Not making decisions around Rose" = "mailing it in the next 2 seasons". Yeah, we are talking about a rookie draft, not a free agent class. Whoever we pick is going to be the same price. My point is they should not be thinking "who complements Rose the best?" it's "Who could be a great player for Fred Hoiberg!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ May 22, 2015 -> 02:59 PM) Yeah, we are talking about a rookie draft, not a free agent class. Whoever we pick is going to be the same price. My point is they should not be thinking "who complements Rose the best?" it's "Who could be a great player for Fred Hoiberg!" I think they can also target needs, but basically their needs are "backcourt depth and frontcourt depth and whichever one they don't fill in the draft they should try to fill with the MLE", so that clause works ok for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ May 22, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) Yeah, we are talking about a rookie draft, not a free agent class. Whoever we pick is going to be the same price. My point is they should not be thinking "who complements Rose the best?" it's "Who could be a great player for Fred Hoiberg!" bmags you'll probably be the only other one but... I really wanted them to move up for Clarkson in the draft. Perfect backup to Rose and could run in a two guard set with him. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 22, 2015 -> 02:05 PM) bmags you'll probably be the only other one but... I really wanted them to move up for Clarkson in the draft. Perfect backup to Rose and could run in a two guard set with him. Ugh. To be honest, I didn't think Clarkson would be good at all. When we moved to SEC play with him I thought he completely disappeared as people just took away his right hand drives. But, obviously we heard he was going through an intense family situation so that may have been a cause too, just being exhausted. I honestly wanted mcdermott so I can't really complain. There was a preseason game with Gasol, Mirotic, Mcdermott, Snell and Rose out in the game, with the 4 non-rose people spread across the perimeter, the spacing was incredible. Then McDermott shot worse than Rose in the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 If you had a single team who absolutely knew they wanted Thibs over anybody else, all you have to do to get leverage is just get them to believe you will trade him elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 QUOTE (Jake @ May 22, 2015 -> 02:13 PM) If you had a single team who absolutely knew they wanted Thibs over anybody else, all you have to do to get leverage is just get them to believe you will trade him elsewhere The problem is, you could only "trade" Thibs to somewhere he wants to go. There is tampering going on here as well. You aren't going to be able to fool anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Plus, if the Bulls don't want Thibs, they can't bluff for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ May 22, 2015 -> 02:10 PM) To be honest, I didn't think Clarkson would be good at all. When we moved to SEC play with him I thought he completely disappeared as people just took away his right hand drives. But, obviously we heard he was going through an intense family situation so that may have been a cause too, just being exhausted. I honestly wanted mcdermott so I can't really complain. There was a preseason game with Gasol, Mirotic, Mcdermott, Snell and Rose out in the game, with the 4 non-rose people spread across the perimeter, the spacing was incredible. Then McDermott shot worse than Rose in the regular season. Ah. I thought his scoring ability and size would make him the ideal backup point, but then again I like most Mizzou players not named Kim English. Definitely thought Jabari Brown would get drafted and that Flip would get his head out of his ass in terms of wanting to shoot. But having Demare and Clarkson helps. Now I just want them both on the Bulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I thought and still think Jabari will be like Jannero Pargo, an all offense, no defense shooter that bounces around on 10 day contracts for the most part and ends up with a 10+ year career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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