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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 28, 2015 -> 11:31 AM)
That press release from JR absolutely trashed Thibs, wow.

He did mention keeping things private. That is pretty weird.I don't know about absolutely trashed, but I think it was a little over the line. His President tried beating up a former coach (minutes restriction on that one as well) and the coach he is firing has a .730 winning pct when the former MVP they lucked out in being able to draft is in the line up. Gar/Pax don't exactly seem like a working well with others pair, and that is 2 coaches they supposedly got wrong. I think 3 strikes you should be out.

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Disgusted by JR's press release. Completely uncalled for. Hilarious to say this team has accomplished a lot with a front office/coach alignment. That is absolutely not the case.

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The Bulls org is at a point where I seriously find it hard to root for this team. The leadership are egomaniac pricks. Rose is the most annoying and disconnected star in the league. They will not catch up with the elite teams in this league in the next five years. Its just pathetic right now.

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I'm just excited to see what should be an exciting brand of basketball.

 

I know a lot of people, including myself, wanna see Jo traded, but with his ability to be a point center he sounds like he could be perfect for Hoibergs offense.

 

Along with Royce White, I wonder if they might give DeAndre Kane a look.

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Now see, why wasn't the media talking about this before?

 

Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 34m34 minutes ago

 

We knew there was tension between Thibodeau and the front office, but when he lost the locker room, the writing was on the wall.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 28, 2015 -> 11:56 AM)
Now see, why wasn't the media talking about this before?

 

Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 34m34 minutes ago

 

We knew there was tension between Thibodeau and the front office, but when he lost the locker room, the writing was on the wall.

How much of that was knowing his status was lame duck?

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2015 -> 11:38 AM)
He did mention keeping things private. That is pretty weird.I don't know about absolutely trashed, but I think it was a little over the line. His President tried beating up a former coach (minutes restriction on that one as well) and the coach he is firing has a .730 winning pct when the former MVP they lucked out in being able to draft is in the line up. Gar/Pax don't exactly seem like a working well with others pair, and that is 2 coaches they supposedly got wrong. I think 3 strikes you should be out.

 

This is why they are so pissed, supposedly.

 

Teddy Greenstein ‏@TeddyGreenstein 30m30 minutes ago

 

Thibs buried own grave w/unwillingness to work w/his #Bulls bosses. But credit Jeff Van Gundy (rips during TV broadcasts) w/the assist.

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BTW - I think KC Johnson takes a huge hit here. Between him getting blown up from the Deng deal, and consistently putting for the view that the Front office wanted to appear to be the truth (stability) and not what was actually going on, I just have no trust that his "reality" takes are true. Woj was the correct one here, as usual.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 28, 2015 -> 12:59 PM)
This is why they are so pissed, supposedly.

 

Teddy Greenstein ‏@TeddyGreenstein 30m30 minutes ago

 

Thibs buried own grave w/unwillingness to work w/his #Bulls bosses. But credit Jeff Van Gundy (rips during TV broadcasts) w/the assist.

Van Gundy ripping Thibs or the FO?

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 28, 2015 -> 12:07 PM)
Van Gundy ripping Thibs or the FO?

 

He went on a very public and loud tirade against the front office, supposedly on Thibs behalf if you believe the Bulls front office, during a broadcast earlier this year.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 28, 2015 -> 12:12 PM)
Dave McMenamin ‏@mcten 16m16 minutes ago

 

Per a league source, at this moment the Bulls have security waiting to escort Tom Thibodeau out of the building.while he packs his things

So, he's being fired like any other person in any other job.

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QUOTE (bmags @ May 28, 2015 -> 12:03 PM)
BTW - I think KC Johnson takes a huge hit here. Between him getting blown up from the Deng deal, and consistently putting for the view that the Front office wanted to appear to be the truth (stability) and not what was actually going on, I just have no trust that his "reality" takes are true. Woj was the correct one here, as usual.

 

Not sure I buy this. KC has always been a "here's the facts" kind of writer, without the fluff of his own opinions or take on the issue. He's the Bull's beat writer for the Trib, so of course he's going to play nice with the Bulls FO, but i'm not sure he's a cheerleader either.

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Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI 5m5 minutes ago

Bulls are locked in on Iowa State's Fred Hoiberg, league sources have repeatedly said. Question is: Is Hoiberg ready to leave Ames?

 

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@ChrisMannixSI He was ready to leave last year if he had gotten the Golden State job. LOVES the NBA.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2015 -> 09:15 AM)
I've never understood LeBron settling for jumpers other than to hold off some fatigue. If he gets it in his mind to take it to the basket, he cannot be stopped, and GS will be no lock to win.
Exactly
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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 28, 2015 -> 01:15 PM)
And all the nonsense about the Bulls keeping him on until after the coaching hires were completed was, as expected, a bunch of nothing.

I think they probably tried and failed on the trade front.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 28, 2015 -> 12:10 PM)
He went on a very public and loud tirade against the front office, supposedly on Thibs behalf if you believe the Bulls front office, during a broadcast earlier this year.

 

Yeah I remember that. He did it on a national broadcast and also on the Zach Lowe podcast. It was clear trumpeting on Thibs' behalf. Reinsdorf was pissed about it too and that probably sealed his fate.

 

Again though, add in the fact that the Bulls have only progressed so far, and i'm not sure why anyone is that upset about it. He was a great regular season coach and a great defensive coach. And he should get credit for the development of late 1st round talent. But he took them from point C to B and we need someone that goes from B to A. If the players were getting tired of him, which several apparently said so in their exit interviews, then a change has to be made.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 28, 2015 -> 12:21 PM)
I think they probably tried and failed on the trade front.

 

Sure, but there seemed to be a media angle that the Bulls were going to f*** with Thibs and prevent him from getting a good job.

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 28, 2015 -> 01:22 PM)
Yeah I remember that. He did it on a national broadcast and also on the Zach Lowe podcast. It was clear trumpeting on Thibs' behalf. Reinsdorf was pissed about it too and that probably sealed his fate.

 

Again though, add in the fact that the Bulls have only progressed so far, and i'm not sure why anyone is that upset about it. He was a great regular season coach and a great defensive coach. And he should get credit for the development of late 1st round talent. But he took from the point C to B and we need someone that goes from B to A. If the players were getting tired of him, which several apparently said in their exit interviews, then a change has to be made.

You and I....are in agreement.

 

I just thought we needed to mark that with a specific post stating so.

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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 28, 2015 -> 01:22 PM)
Sure, but there seemed to be a media angle that the Bulls were going to f*** with Thibs and prevent him from getting a good job.

Wondering if that was leaked by Thibs's side so that they got even more angry and just got it done.

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