bmags Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 01:43 AM) Spending a lot of time together...Tomorrows meetings with the Texas teams will be half a day each. Thank you Derrick. Noah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 07:43 PM) Spending a lot of time together...Tomorrows meetings with the Texas teams will be half a day each. Is it telling at all that Melo has spent the day/night in Chicago with Bulls brass and is only giving the Texas teams a few hours each tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:01 PM) Is it telling at all that Melo has spent the day/night in Chicago with Bulls brass and is only giving the Texas teams a few hours each tomorrow? I sure hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Article on what went down in the meetings... http://www.basketballinsiders.com/chicago-...armelo-anthony/ Favorite part... While Rose had went on the record saying that he wasn’t going recruit Anthony to Chicago, he was very involved in the team’s courtship of the superstar free agent, according to sources close to the situation. While at the practice facility, sources say that Rose went through a private workout to show Anthony that he’s healthy and ready to compete at a high level next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:27 PM) Article on what went down in the meetings... http://www.basketballinsiders.com/chicago-...armelo-anthony/ Favorite part... [insert Rose hurt himself joke} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 02:01 AM) Is it telling at all that Melo has spent the day/night in Chicago with Bulls brass and is only giving the Texas teams a few hours each tomorrow? I mean, we may as we'll tell ourselves this while the window hasn't shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 02:46 PM) His first year with the team, no. But then they made an exception. Chicago Bulls coach Scott Skiles, who would not allow center Ben Wallace to wear his trademark headband last season, said Monday that the team has decided to make an exception to its team rule and let Wallace wear the sweat-stopping accessory during games. The return of the headband was endorsed by Wallace's teammates, Skiles said. "We still have a no-headband rule," Skiles told reporters. "I just left it up to the guys who have been here if they wanted to make an exception for Ben. I was fine with it. They were fine with it." I had no idea the Bulls had a no headband rule, why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:27 PM) Article on what went down in the meetings... http://www.basketballinsiders.com/chicago-...armelo-anthony/ Favorite part... If that's true then that is awesome,Derrick really came through on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 @McGrawDHBulls: I say the key to a Melo sign & trade is Bulls take back JR Smith and Prigioni. That way, Knicks have $50 mil cap room in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think JR Smith would do fine here. Either he plays defense and we reap the rewards of his shooting 10-15 minutes per game or he does not play defense and he sits on the bench. We got productive seasons out of similarly inept defensive players (Nate, Marco) and JR probably has more skill than any of those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 They'd cut JR Smith...hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 i think Pax cuts him too, he isnt a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 How on Earth could the Bulls make those salaries work? If Melo is ~$20m, that's $27 million in salaries the Bulls would have to take on/match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 07:53 AM) i think Pax cuts him too, he isnt a fan I might be wrong, but wasn't it Skiles who wasn't a fan? I think Thibs could make it work honestly. It's not ideal but if that's what it takes to get Melo, it's fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 08:04 AM) I might be wrong, but wasn't it Skiles who wasn't a fan? I think Thibs could make it work honestly. It's not ideal but if that's what it takes to get Melo, it's fine with me. IIRC Skiles and Pax were pretty much in sync with the type of players they liked and didnt like, and JRS was sent packing immediately after he was acquired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Link If the Chicago Bulls' dream scenario is to land Carmelo Anthony through a sign-and-trade involving Carlos Boozer, the Bulls will have to come up with another plan, according to league sources. The New York Knicks will not take back Boozer in a sign-and-trade deal, the sources said. Despite their interest in Anthony, sources said the Bulls have not called the Knicks to gauge potential sign-and-trade scenarios. The Knicks' top priority is, of course, to resign Anthony. But if Anthony decides he wants to play in Chicago, it would make sense for the Knicks to retrieve some assets via a sign-and-trade, and a source said they would perhaps do so as a last resort. The Bulls would want to include Boozer in such a deal because it would allow them to avoid amnestying him and his $16.8 million salary and would also enable them to pay Anthony more money. But the Knicks, according to sources, will not cooperate with any plan that involves them taking back Boozer. While the Bulls could sign Anthony outright as a free agent, executives throughout the league believe their preference is to get him through a sign-and-trade. That would keep the Bulls from having to amnesty Boozer and essentially pay him for nothing. Many executives question whether Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf would be willing to do that. Chicago's impressive recruiting pitch to Anthony on Tuesday suggests that Reinsdorf will do whatever it takes to acquire Anthony, including using his amnesty clause. But the amnesty route would also make it difficult for the Bulls to offer Anthony anything near the $22.4 million the Knicks can offer him next season. By amnestying Boozer and trading away Mike Dunleavy for nothing, the Bulls could start a four-year deal for Anthony at $15 million in the first year. If they traded Jimmy Butler as well, they could start Anthony at $17 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 08:00 AM) How on Earth could the Bulls make those salaries work? If Melo is ~$20m, that's $27 million in salaries the Bulls would have to take on/match. Boozer/Butler/Dunleavy/Smith and the non gaurenteed contracts of James/Brewer/Amundson is a touch over 27M. Swapping out Butler for Snell would add up to 26.6. How close does it have to be? Melo/JR/Prig is 27.6. Those first 4 don't have a contract that last past this coming up season so if they're looking to make a push in FA next year the deal works for them. They HAVE to take Boozer...Unless they can make a 3 way deal. That would leave the Bulls with Rose/Prigioni Smith/Snell or more preferably Butler/Smith Melo/DMD Taj/Mirotic Noah/Vet min Might be worth noting that Prig and Mirotic were teammates so that could help his transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 08:24 AM) Link The main reason to S&T isn't to get rid of Boozer though. It's to acquire Carmelo while being over the salary cap. They can't sign him outright and go over the cap but if they trade for him they can. If they do that, they get to use the Full Mid-Level Exception and a Lower Exception as well. They could realistically slot Mirotic into part of or all of the MLE, while signing a backup C and guys like Ben Gordon, Caron Butler, etc to fill out the team with the exceptions. Being over the cap is actually a good thing this offseason for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 03:17 PM) The main reason to S&T isn't to get rid of Boozer though. It's to acquire Carmelo while being over the salary cap. They can't sign him outright and go over the cap but if they trade for him they can. If they do that, they get to use the Full Mid-Level Exception and a Lower Exception as well. They could realistically slot Mirotic into part of or all of the MLE, while signing a backup C and guys like Ben Gordon, Caron Butler, etc to fill out the team with the exceptions. Being over the cap is actually a good thing this offseason for sure. Exactly, I don't want to amnesty boozer because it means you have zero chance of signing Mirotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 10:17 AM) The main reason to S&T isn't to get rid of Boozer though. It's to acquire Carmelo while being over the salary cap. They can't sign him outright and go over the cap but if they trade for him they can. If they do that, they get to use the Full Mid-Level Exception and a Lower Exception as well. They could realistically slot Mirotic into part of or all of the MLE, while signing a backup C and guys like Ben Gordon, Caron Butler, etc to fill out the team with the exceptions. Being over the cap is actually a good thing this offseason for sure. If the Knicks won't take Boozer then that means the Bulls would have to bring in another team who was wiling to do so, making things extraordinarily messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 07:07 AM) Boozer/Butler/Dunleavy/Smith and the non gaurenteed contracts of James/Brewer/Amundson is a touch over 27M. Swapping out Butler for Snell would add up to 26.6. How close does it have to be? Melo/JR/Prig is 27.6. Those first 4 don't have a contract that last past this coming up season so if they're looking to make a push in FA next year the deal works for them. They HAVE to take Boozer...Unless they can make a 3 way deal. That would leave the Bulls with Rose/Prigioni Smith/Snell or more preferably Butler/Smith Melo/DMD Taj/Mirotic Noah/Vet min Might be worth noting that Prig and Mirotic were teammates so that could help his transition. That trade works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Didn't I read somewhere that there was talk of a Boozer trade to the Lakers for Gasol? edit: eh maybe I was wrong if Gasol is a FA. Edited July 2, 2014 by Jenksismybitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 07:31 AM) If the Knicks won't take Boozer then that means the Bulls would have to bring in another team who was wiling to do so, making things extraordinarily messy. Lakers might be that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 2, 2014 -> 10:40 AM) Lakers might be that team. Do they have a large salary they can give back? It actually doesn't help the Bulls much aside from saving Reinsdorf money if the Bulls trade Boozer to a team that just absorbs his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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