chw42 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 12:50 AM) FWIW, if I want to spend $10 million on FA and it's down to Lance Stephenson and Chandler Parsons, I'm going Parsons every time That's assuming Parsons' going rate is $10 million. I think it's going to be higher. Stephenson's market value is about what he actually provides for you on the court right now. You're not really overpaying for him. Stephenson may be an idiot, but you can't overlook his efficiency numbers last year for an offensively challenged Indiana team. Not only did he shoot the ball fairly well (including the 3), he averaged almost 5 assists per game. He can be your second ball handler. He also plays defense, so there's that. Edited July 8, 2014 by chw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I thought for sure Lance would get more than 10 plus. His antics have really damaged him, wow. Gimme gimme gimme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The Pistons are going to sign Aaron Gray. Figured everyone here needed to know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 TIL he hasn't been out of the nba for 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 08:25 AM) The Pistons are going to sign Aaron Gray. Figured everyone here needed to know that. The Pistons are a better team now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I used to love Aaron Gray. Remember when he dropped 19 and 22 in 09 or something? When he was taking oops from Chris Paul that playoff series vs. Lakers? High comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 7, 2014 -> 10:56 PM) That's assuming Parsons' going rate is $10 million. I think it's going to be higher. Stephenson's market value is about what he actually provides for you on the court right now. You're not really overpaying for him. Stephenson may be an idiot, but you can't overlook his efficiency numbers last year for an offensively challenged Indiana team. Not only did he shoot the ball fairly well (including the 3), he averaged almost 5 assists per game. He can be your second ball handler. He also plays defense, so there's that. He is a better basketball player long term then Parsons. It isn't really close, imo. Much better skill-set, etc, and you can get him at a better price. He might be crazy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I guess the dude over at RealGM who broke the Jason Kidd story has "reported" that Melo dropped the Bulls, Mavs and Rockets. He's also waiting to make a decision until Lebron decides. RealGM @RealGM Carl2680: Carmelo won't make decision until LeBron makes his. He's also eliminated the Bulls, Mavs & Rockets. -- http://bit.ly/1jlfxaM Sun-Times apparently says the report is not true: Sun-Times Basketball @suntimes_hoops 13m Report out there is Melo told the Bulls "no thanks'' this morning. Source just said "not true.'' Bulls are still alive, maybe not so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The question is, whether the guy who broke the Kidd story has connections to people close to Melo or the Bulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I forgot what I was reading (since I've read the entire basketball internet past week), but Pacers are close to luxury tax and only made like 8 million last year. They really don't want to pay Lance more than 8 mill so more than that may not be matched (frontloading this offer might be interesting) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 03:56 PM) The question is, whether the guy who broke the Kidd story has connections to people close to Melo or the Bulls. If it's true, it would have to be Melo camp letting it out. Bulls may not have been technically told, but Melo has ruled them out. These are one of these rumors I will tell myself is not true, but I'm sure it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 09:52 AM) I guess the dude over at RealGM who broke the Jason Kidd story has "reported" that Melo dropped the Bulls, Mavs and Rockets. He's also waiting to make a decision until Lebron decides. Sun-Times apparently says the report is not true: Basically that was taken by a dude on a message board right? What's the deal with Real GM anyway?? It looks like a message board to me....is it run by people with sources?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 04:10 PM) Basically that was taken by a dude on a message board right? What's the deal with Real GM anyway?? It looks like a message board to me....is it run by people with sources?? They have people with sources, sometimes they are true. On saturday they had "people with sources" who were saying they had friends that were partners at law firms in Chicago that Melo was coming to work out contract details on Sunday. So, yeah, not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The #1 insider on the OSU board who is really connected to OSU sports (and he claims the Cavs) said that Lebron to Cle is about done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Can I just fast forward a week and not deal with all of this speculation? Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 10:26 AM) Can I just fast forward a week and not deal with all of this speculation? Ugh. No. If we suffer, then so do you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 10:26 AM) The #1 insider on the OSU board who is really connected to OSU sports (and he claims the Cavs) said that Lebron to Cle is about done. Can't wait for the inevitable "he has no supporting cast" argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 10:33 AM) Can't wait for the inevitable "he has no supporting cast" argument. Kyrie's better than anything he ever had in Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Then they turn around and trade Varajeo and Wiggins for Love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 04:34 PM) Kyrie's better than anything he ever had in Cleveland. Kyrie plus Wiggins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 10:26 AM) The #1 insider on the OSU board who is really connected to OSU sports (and he claims the Cavs) said that Lebron to Cle is about done. Is it that NevadaBuck guy? I only ask because I used to look at the OSU scout insider board (one of my best friends went to OSU) and that guy had some interesting stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 10:34 AM) Kyrie's better than anything he ever had in Cleveland. Honestly, I think Lebron, Varajao, Wiggins, and Irving is better than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 10:34 AM) Then they turn around and trade Varajeo and Wiggins for Love God I hope not. LeBron going to Cleveland would even out the East a bit, but putting Love on the same team would make it completely lopsided again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 10:38 AM) Honestly, I think Lebron, Varajao, Wiggins, and Irving is better than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade at this point. If Varejao can stay healthy, yeah. Plus, they got some other pieces on that roster that are way better than what Miami has to offer (Waiters, Thompson, Bennett). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Defensively Kyrie-Waiters-James-Love Verajao (but realistically their backup C due to injury) is possibly worse than rockets with only 1 plus defender (James) Kyrie-Wiggins/James-TT-Verajao(but really backup C) is still not great. That would all really depend on Wiggins development. Kyrie still has yet to be as great as people assume he is, to me he's nothing more than a streaky shooter and capable ball handler on a bad team that increases his usage rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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