Baseball Injury Information Thread

[Soxfest]

 

Gavin Floyd left Thursday's start against the Nationals with a possible elbow injury.

 

The Braves' trainer came out to check on Floyd after he threw his first pitch of the seventh inning. The righty was having his elbow looked at before walking off the field. Obviously, it's a bad sign given that Floyd was making his ninth start since returning from Tommy John surgery. He had spun six scoreless frames before exiting. We probably won't know much about his status until after the game.

 

Per Rotoworld

[Baron]

 

Yeesh

[ptatc]

 

Yeesh

Olecranon bursitis. I've seen them get near baseball size.

[fathom]

Floyd diagnosed with fractured elbow. I wonder if the new method of TJS they did on him could be to blame?

[Leonard Zelig]

Hawk just its a broken elbow.

[ptatc]

Hawk just its a broken elbow.

Ah.. did he get hit on it. It's usually either that or a fall on it. Thats an odd look for a fracture, right on the tip of the olecranon.

[ptatc]

Ah.. did he get hit on it. It's usually either that or a fall on it. Thats an odd look for a fracture, right on the tip of the olecranon.

Just heard that he fractured it throwing a pitch. That is one really strong reconstruction when the bone fails before the replaced ligament does.

[Dick Allen]

Just heard that he fractured it throwing a pitch. That is one really strong reconstruction when the bone fails before the replaced ligament does.

Interesting. Is it possible a reconstruction can be too strong, causing something like this?

[ptatc]

Interesting. Is it possible a reconstruction can be too strong, causing something like this?

No it wouldn't be the cause. It would be that he would have torn the ligament again with whatever he did. However, because the bone was for whatever reason weaker than the ligament the force went to the bone.

I have never seen or heard of anything like this. The only fractures from throwing I've heard of are humerus fractures where there is a tremendous amount of rotation torque.

Edited June 20, 2014 by ptatc

[Rowand44]

No it wouldn't be the cause. It would be that he would have torn the ligament again with whatever he did. However, because the bone was for whatever reason weaker than the ligament the force went to the bone.

I have never seen or heard of anything like this. The only fractures from throwing I've heard of are humerus fractures where there is a tremendous amount of rotation torque.

Gavin Floyd needs to drink some milk.

[southsider2k5]

No it wouldn't be the cause. It would be that he would have torn the ligament again with whatever he did. However, because the bone was for whatever reason weaker than the ligament the force went to the bone.

I have never seen or heard of anything like this. The only fractures from throwing I've heard of are humerus fractures where there is a tremendous amount of rotation torque.

 

Dave Dravecky is the only thing that comes to mind.

[caulfield12]

Dave Dravecky is the only thing that comes to mind.

 

 

But that was cancer-related bone breakdown, right?

[ptatc]

Dave Dravecky is the only thing that comes to mind.

He had a tumor in his humerus that needed to be frozen and removed. So his arm was weakened to begin with.

 

The other one that comes to mind is a pitcher for the Marlins and Angels, I think. Was it Joe Saunders or Tony Saunders. Something like that.

[ptatc]

He had a tumor in his humerus that needed to be frozen and removed. So his arm was weakened to begin with.

 

The other one that comes to mind is a pitcher for the Marlins and Angels, I think. Was it Joe Saunders or Tony Saunders. Something like that.

Others have had stress fractures like Bobby Jenks and had screws inserted to strengthen them but not true displaced fractures like this one.

[Dick Allen]

He had a tumor in his humerus that needed to be frozen and removed. So his arm was weakened to begin with.

 

The other one that comes to mind is a pitcher for the Marlins and Angels, I think. Was it Joe Saunders or Tony Saunders. Something like that.

Tom Browning as well, but pretty rare.

[ptatc]

Tom Browning as well, but pretty rare.

Right. These were all humerus fractures, none in the olecranon/ulna.

[Dick Allen]

Supposedly Zumaya had the same injury. He never pitched in the major leagues again. Of course he had several issues, so who really knows what Floyd's ultimate fate is here.

[Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm]

Supposedly Zumaya had the same injury. He never pitched in the major leagues again. Of course he had several issues, so who really knows what Floyd's ultimate fate is here.

 

Joel Zumaya's most significant injury was a separated shoulder resulting in AC Arthrosis (which I have and it SUCKS). Was never able to throw a ball again. As highly doucherous as he was, I will always "respect" him for how he injured it.... evacuating his parents from their home that was under threat of wildfire.

 

Zumaya sustained another injury, this time to his shoulder, during the 2007 offseason. While helping his father move some boxes in the attic at his father's home in advance of a fire approaching the area, a 50 to 60 pounds (23 to 27 kg) box fell on his right (pitching) shoulder, separating it.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Zumaya

Edited June 20, 2014 by Charlie Haeger's Knuckles

[ptatc]

Joel Zumaya's most significant injury was a separated shoulder resulting in AC Arthrosis (which I have and it SUCKS). Was never able to throw a ball again. As highly doucherous as he was, I will always "respect" him for how he injured it.... evacuating his parents from their home that was under threat of wildfire.

After looking it up, his career was ended by a non-displaced fracture to his olecranon that needed a screw for stability. They decided to replace the screw which means that healing did not occur properly and may have been misaligned, which could explain why he never recovered properly.

 

That really is more of the stress fracture that I was referring to unlike Floyd's that is obviously displaced.

[Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm]

After looking it up, his career was ended by a non-displaced fracture to his olecranon that needed a screw for stability. They decided to replace the screw which means that healing did not occur properly and may have been misaligned, which could explain why he never recovered properly.

 

That really is more of the stress fracture that I was referring to unlike Floyd's that is obviously displaced.

 

 

I was watching the game last night and he was cruising until that pitch... after you could see how swollen his arm was, and it wouldn't surprise me if there was something going on in there that caused it to break when he threw the pitch.

[ptatc]

I was watching the game last night and he was cruising until that pitch... after you could see how swollen his arm was, and it wouldn't surprise me if there was something going on in there that caused it to break when he threw the pitch.

I've just seen pictures and written description but it looks nasty.

[Jake]

I've only seen the humerus break. An old pal got TJS and his first competitive pitch went flying straight into the ground as we all heard an audible crack. He had a gruesome displaced fracture of the humerus

[knightni]

I split this off because I think that information on baseball injuries is a good part of enlightenment and makes for better fans.

 

Ask questions or post articles and ptatc will give you his opinions.

 

 

[witesoxfan]

I've only seen the humerus break. An old pal got TJS and his first competitive pitch went flying straight into the ground as we all heard an audible crack. He had a gruesome displaced fracture of the humerus

 

Pics or it didnt happen

[Dick Allen]

Back 15-20 years ago, every time a guy fouled a ball off his foot or was hit in the hand by a pitch, a trainer would spray him with some sort of freezing agent. How come they don't do that any longer?