caulfield12 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) We're to the point they can just blow up this whole roster besides Abreu, Sale, Quintana, Eaton and Gillaspie...and even considering Conor part of that core is pushing it. Then Garcia coming back next year, and you probably hold onto Petricka and Webb as well. So about 8 players. And we won't be able to trade Danks, so we're stuck with him, thus making it 9. Edited June 22, 2014 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 02:45 PM) No shock, the outfield defense has had awful fundamentals dating back to the Dye era. Have the Sox even had an outfielder's coach the past ten years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 02:46 PM) Now Hawk is talking about getting our "Karma" back. If getting swept 3 straight weekends is getting your Karma back..........I do not want it. Hawk is just spewing nonsense today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 02:48 PM) We're to the point they can just blow up this whole roster besides Abreu, Sale, Quintana, Eaton and Gillaspie...and even considering Conor part of that core is pushing it. I hope they can find a sucker to take Danks contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Gordon's aura caused that bad throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 01:48 PM) Have the Sox even had an outfielder's coach the past ten years? Considering they've had guys like Gary Pettis, Raines, Boston and Baines around the team...you'd think ONE of them would have worked with the outfielders, especially with all the specialists they have now. Cora, but he primarily worked with infielders? Edited June 22, 2014 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) Dunn's been a foul ball machine so far this series. His bat speed seems soooo slow. Edited June 22, 2014 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Alexei smoked that ball. Dang! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 02:48 PM) Have the Sox even had an outfielder's coach the past ten years? Eventually you have to quit blaming coaches, and blame the players where due. De Aza is just a terrible OF. He is a baseball-stupid player in general. He gets into bad positions, he makes bad decisions on the basepaths, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Back to the mid-May to late June offense again. At least we had those first 6 weeks or so of the season to dream. Defense/fundamentals are basically the same or worse than last year, other than having Eaton in CF now...and even he's made a lot of questionable throws this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 02:59 PM) Eventually you have to quit blaming coaches, and blame the players where due. De Aza is just a terrible OF. He is a baseball-stupid player in general. He gets into bad positions, he makes bad decisions on the basepaths, etc. Sox outfielders have had bad defensive fundamentals long before De Aza was on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 01:59 PM) Eventually you have to quit blaming coaches, and blame the players where due. De Aza is just a terrible OF. He is a baseball-stupid player in general. He gets into bad positions, he makes bad decisions on the basepaths, etc. So what does it say about our lack of depth/ability to develop outfielders that we had no choice (in Hahn's mind) but to bring someone with so many clear flaws and clearly on the wrong side of 30 back for that salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Maybe the Sox can trade Micah Johnson for a good outfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 03:02 PM) So what does it say about our lack of depth/ability to develop outfielders that we had no choice (in Hahn's mind) but to bring someone with so many clear flaws and clearly on the wrong side of 30 back for that salary? I'll be shocked if he is here again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 02:04 PM) Maybe the Sox can trade Micah Johnson for a good outfielder. When the likes of Seth Smith, Willingham and Carlos Quentin are some of the top "sluggers" available, you know offense is down down down. Matt Kemp remains the most interesting and risky name for both the Dodgers and the acquiring team...depending on how much cash LA is willing to give up and prospects surrendered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 09:12 PM) I'll be shocked if he is here again next year. Not enough +1 in the world to illustrate I agree with this. Truth be told, I was shocked he was brought back this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Sad when Fuld has played such a big role in beating the Sox this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 03:14 PM) Not enough +1 in the world to illustrate I agree with this. Truth be told, I was shocked he was brought back this year. I was surprised a bit, but I also thought that there were other more important things to take care of. After the other moves that have been made, moving De Aza moves up the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Dayan Viciedo needs to go long before De Aza does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 03:12 PM) I'll be shocked if he is here again next year. Over 4 mil this year and going back to arbitration again, he has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'm glad Petricka went to third on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) Nice throw by Tyler. Here comes the stupid review. No review. Edited June 22, 2014 by South Side Fireworks Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 22, 2014 -> 02:48 PM) We're to the point they can just blow up this whole roster besides Abreu, Sale, Quintana, Eaton and Gillaspie...and even considering Conor part of that core is pushing it. Then Garcia coming back next year, and you probably hold onto Petricka and Webb as well. So about 8 players. And we won't be able to trade Danks, so we're stuck with him, thus making it 9. yep, that's pretty much the core. But it gets tougher and tougher to trade the non-core guys as their value craters. We could have moved De Aza in the offseason - not anymore. Ramirez and Beckham could be moved, but most teams are probably just wanting to assume salary. They could hold onto any number in the bullpen - Putnam has pitched the best of all of them. They also could and should trade any bullpen pitcher for whom a good offer is made. Edited June 22, 2014 by GreenSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1dog Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 "Be a fanny patter." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 1-2-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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