Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Jesse SanchezVerified account @JesseSanchezMLB Source: Top Cuban INF prospect Yoan Moncada,19, has left the island & could shake up the July 2 int'l signing period: http://js.mlblogs.com/2014/06/30/cuban-inf...eft-the-island/ … Here's the link: User Actions Following Jesse SanchezVerified account @JesseSanchezMLB Source: Top Cuban INF prospect Yoan Moncada,19, has left the island & could shake up the July 2 int'l signing period: http://js.mlblogs.com/2014/06/30/cuban-inf...eft-the-island/ … He is 19 years old, played with Abreu, and subject to the new International Bonus Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 30, 2014 -> 05:56 PM) Jesse SanchezVerified account @JesseSanchezMLB Source: Top Cuban INF prospect Yoan Moncada,19, has left the island & could shake up the July 2 int'l signing period: http://js.mlblogs.com/2014/06/30/cuban-inf...eft-the-island/ … Here's the link: User Actions Following Jesse SanchezVerified account @JesseSanchezMLB Source: Top Cuban INF prospect Yoan Moncada,19, has left the island & could shake up the July 2 int'l signing period: http://js.mlblogs.com/2014/06/30/cuban-inf...eft-the-island/ … He is 19 years old, played with Abreu, and subject to the new International Bonus Rules Sign. Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) http://obstructedview.net/commentary-and-a...-and-video.html Their entire budget for international would have to go to this guy, but it might be worth it. He's exactly the kind of dynamic athletic talent we need on the infield, especially if he can play 3B. Seems he's become more of a middle infielder (SS/2B), but the idea he could play 3B, combined with that level of speed and athleticism...well, obviously Jose Abreu's going to be intimately involved in the entire process of the White Sox going after him. Would be another great option to go along with Timmy Anderson at SS. Have Abreu personally bring his former teammate a check for $5 million. Only the Marlins and Astros can outbid us, right? Forget Ynoa. Edited July 1, 2014 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 They have his slash line for "2013.5" at .254/.436/.306. How is that even a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 The Next Cuban Baseball Wonder Boy? 22 November, 2012No Comments By: Reynier Batista Morales Yoan Manuel Moncada Olivares is currently full of expectation, because in less than a week, he will wear the jersey of the Cienfuegos team, as rookie, in the 52nd Cuban Baseball Series. And no wonder, because this young player knows there are hundreds of eyes on him due to his distinguished career at youth level, which makes him one of the top prospects in the country. “Cienfuegos can expect the best of me this year despite being a rookie, I hope to have a good result from the work of my coaches and the support of my colleagues who have helped me, and I wish to give a good show to the people of Cuba,” this 17 years old youngster noted. Moncada was born in the neighborhood of Las Quinientas, municipality of Abreu, and made it to the Cuba team in the category 15 -16 years thanks to an excellent performance in the National Championship of 2011, in which he had a tremendous performance with 40 hits in 24 games, including eight homers. Moncada became famous in the 14th World Baseball Championship U-16 IBAF (AA), which was held in Lagos de Moreno, Mexico, where Cuba finished second and he became the only Cuban chosen for the all stars team of the tournament. He won the recognition for Best Third Base by his excellent figures, being the main slugger in the Cuban squad: Average 500, 10 hits in 20 at-bats, with two doubles and an equal number of triples, plus 0.800 slugging percentage and he committed just two errors in defense. A few days ago he had its pre-competitive test towards Cuba’s most important sport event while participating with Cienfuegos (The elephants) in the 20th Antillana de Acero Cup in which "I felt the best since this was my first competition in the Senior Class". He added "This is a good preparation for the National Series as our team thinks to be on top this year". Besides being a switch hitter, Yoan Moncada is able to play multiple positions in the infield, besides the 3rd base, he also plays as shortstop and in second base. "I feel good in all three positions, I used to play as shortstop, there I felt better, but now that I’m playing in second base I also feel comfortable and I think I can also do well here". Cienfuegos´ boy will have opportunities to shine from now on. He has talent to spare. Time will tell if he has what it takes to reach stardom. His focus on training will have much to do with that. http://oncubamagazine.com/sports/yoan-monc...all-wonder-boy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/06/infi...eaves-cuba.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Balta1701 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 12:20 AM) http://obstructedview.net/commentary-and-a...-and-video.html Their entire budget for international would have to go to this guy, but it might be worth it. He's exactly the kind of dynamic athletic talent we need on the infield, especially if he can play 3B. Seems he's become more of a middle infielder (SS/2B), but the idea he could play 3B, combined with that level of speed and athleticism...well, obviously Jose Abreu's going to be intimately involved in the entire process of the White Sox going after him. Would be another great option to go along with Timmy Anderson at SS. Have Abreu personally bring his former teammate a check for $5 million. Only the Marlins and Astros can outbid us, right? Forget Ynoa. Some of us seriously prefer grabbing multiple guys for that kind of money rather than spending it all on a single player half a decade away from the big leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 08:07 AM) Some of us seriously prefer grabbing multiple guys for that kind of money rather than spending it all on a single player half a decade away from the big leagues. He's not have a decade away. He's 19 years old. I would agree with you on the 16 year old signings though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:15 AM) He's not have a decade away. He's 19 years old. I would agree with you on the 16 year old signings though. If he's 19, he could quite easily be 4-5 years away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 lol caulfield why did you bold the part where the kid was born Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 30, 2014 -> 11:20 PM) http://obstructedview.net/commentary-and-a...-and-video.html Their entire budget for international would have to go to this guy, but it might be worth it. He's exactly the kind of dynamic athletic talent we need on the infield, especially if he can play 3B. Seems he's become more of a middle infielder (SS/2B), but the idea he could play 3B, combined with that level of speed and athleticism...well, obviously Jose Abreu's going to be intimately involved in the entire process of the White Sox going after him. Would be another great option to go along with Timmy Anderson at SS. Have Abreu personally bring his former teammate a check for $5 million. Only the Marlins and Astros can outbid us, right? Forget Ynoa. Thats not true, the only teams that cannot outbid us are the Cubs and Rangers. The Rays, Brewers, Red Sox and Yankees are already to bust through their spending caps anyway, so there is no further harm in going further over the limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 30, 2014 -> 11:20 PM) http://obstructedview.net/commentary-and-a...-and-video.html Their entire budget for international would have to go to this guy, but it might be worth it. He's exactly the kind of dynamic athletic talent we need on the infield, especially if he can play 3B. Seems he's become more of a middle infielder (SS/2B), but the idea he could play 3B, combined with that level of speed and athleticism...well, obviously Jose Abreu's going to be intimately involved in the entire process of the White Sox going after him. Would be another great option to go along with Timmy Anderson at SS. Have Abreu personally bring his former teammate a check for $5 million. Only the Marlins and Astros can outbid us, right? Forget Ynoa. Anyone could outbid us if they are willing to go over their international budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 08:31 AM) If he's 19, he could quite easily be 4-5 years away. Half a decade would be 24, which is still a pretty young age to hit the majors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 10:33 AM) Half a decade would be 24, which is still a pretty young age to hit the majors. Jorge Soler was 20 when he signed, it looks like he will probably be 23-24 before he has a shot at the majors at the rate he's going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'm pretty sure if Jeff Keppinger suddenly became Cuban, Soxtalk would want him re-signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I like the idea of going after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:07 AM) I'm pretty sure if Jeff Keppinger suddenly became Cuban, Soxtalk would want him re-signed. Because Keppinger was one of the fastest/biggest/most athletic/youngest infielders available...and could also play SS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 07:31 AM) If he's 19, he could quite easily be 4-5 years away. Ummm...no, this would be similar to Viciedo, where he was signed after 2008 and made an impact in the 2010 playoff race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 11:51 AM) Ummm...no, this would be similar to Viciedo, where he was signed after 2008 and made an impact in the 2010 playoff race. That worked out well right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 He's a prospect, not a ML player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:01 AM) That worked out well right? Technically, I'd argue that Viciedo was worth the investment. Not sure he hit the upside as possible but he's a legit major leaguer who still has some potential although it might not be realized here. Can't really look at things in a vacuum either cause franchise could have traded him for some pretty good players at various stages when he was in the minors and early on after his rookie season. Maybe we shouldn't do anything because one guy was a bust. It is a risk / reward. If we made that statement (Viciedo didn't work) with your logic applied we should never have went after Abreu either. Give me as many elite talents as possible and with this cuban IF being subject to the international FA pools it should help corall his cost which means more likley you get a pretty good reward. No guarantee but I'd wager some of our cash. Then again I'd have done what the Rangers / Yankees have done in the past (and Yanks this year) which is just go like crazy and do an every other year in the FA pool. I think the bang for your buck is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 11:06 AM) Technically, I'd argue that Viciedo was worth the investment. At $10 million, he was worth every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 10:51 AM) Ummm...no, this would be similar to Viciedo, where he was signed after 2008 and made an impact in the 2010 playoff race. I am not sure that is the case. But there isn't a huge need for the Sox to push him through either with Semien, Sanchez, and Johnson all in the way. Stick him in AA next season with Anderson, Barnum, and Hawkins and let them come up together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 11:06 AM) Technically, I'd argue that Viciedo was worth the investment. Not sure he hit the upside as possible but he's a legit major leaguer who still has some potential although it might not be realized here. Can't really look at things in a vacuum either cause franchise could have traded him for some pretty good players at various stages when he was in the minors and early on after his rookie season. Maybe we shouldn't do anything because one guy was a bust. It is a risk / reward. If we made that statement (Viciedo didn't work) with your logic applied we should never have went after Abreu either. Give me as many elite talents as possible and with this cuban IF being subject to the international FA pools it should help corall his cost which means more likley you get a pretty good reward. No guarantee but I'd wager some of our cash. Then again I'd have done what the Rangers / Yankees have done in the past (and Yanks this year) which is just go like crazy and do an every other year in the FA pool. I think the bang for your buck is there. QFT I think Balta was just challenging the assertion that this kid will make a Puig-like (or even Viciedo-like) immediate impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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