southsider2k5 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Notice the White Sox were not mentioned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 If he's closer to Viciedo than Puig/Cespedes/R.Castillo/Leonys Martin as an OFer, it's quite understandable. Dayan really needs to be moved to DH as part of a platoon situation, facing lefties and some righties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 22, 2014 -> 08:31 PM) If he's closer to Viciedo than Puig/Cespedes/R.Castillo/Leonys Martin as an OFer, it's quite understandable. Dayan really needs to be moved to DH as part of a platoon situation, facing lefties and some righties. Or he just needs to be moved in general. Dayan is bad at baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 03:23 PM) Or he just needs to be moved in general. Dayan is bad at baseball. and I wonder who will pay to get him. the return for the trade. with a weak draft of players with limited power, I wonder if there will be a team willing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 08:33 AM) and I wonder who will pay to get him. the return for the trade. with a weak draft of players with limited power, I wonder if there will be a team willing? The Mariners name always comes up, and he was connected to a possible trade before Ackley emerged as a semi-regular in LF, although he's also been a pretty big disappointment overall, along with Smoak and Montero. They're not getting enough from CF (when Saunders was out and Jones was playing), SS...Kendrys Morales and Hart/Morrison have been disappointments for most of the season as well. Zunino has some pop for a catcher, but a very low BA and OBP. Edited September 23, 2014 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 03:44 PM) The Mariners name always comes up, and he was connected to a possible trade before Ackley emerged as a semi-regular in LF, although he's also been a pretty big disappointment overall, along with Smoak and Montero. They're not getting enough from CF (when Saunders was out and Jones was playing), SS...Kendrys Morales and Hart/Morrison have been disappointments for most of the season as well. Zunino has some pop for a catcher, but a very low BA and OBP. with the mariners, the trade talk according to some site were real. I was reading a rumors, wish I remember which, had the trade being close. the problem was the prospects the mariners had to give up. of course the only ones who would know are the players in the trade talk. so all the other rumors are that rumors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 08:58 AM) with the mariners, the trade talk according to some site were real. I was reading a rumors, wish I remember which, had the trade being close. the problem was the prospects the mariners had to give up. of course the only ones who would know are the players in the trade talk. so all the other rumors are that rumors. About Saunders for Viciedo, as well as Ackley and/or Smoak at different points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...ra-leaves-cuba/ Another Cuban on the market, one of the Top 5-6 remaining guys, 2B Hector Olivera. He's already 30. Wonder if he can play LF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Baseball America @BaseballAmerica 56m56 minutes ago Yasmany Tomas Declared Free Agent - Yasmany Tomas is free to sign with a major league team, as Major League Baseba... http://ow.ly/2OwvVx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 01:20 PM) Baseball America @BaseballAmerica 56m56 minutes ago Yasmany Tomas Declared Free Agent - Yasmany Tomas is free to sign with a major league team, as Major League Baseba... http://ow.ly/2OwvVx I'd be real interested if they can find a LH DH. Eaton Semien/Ramirez Abreu LH DH Garcia/Tomas Gilaspie Garcia/Tomas Ramirez/Semien/Johnson/Sanchez Flowers Looks pretty sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I know the Sox are stacked with right handed hitters but I would love to know what the FO thinks about Tomas. He's young and at the age that fits into the core they are looking for. Going by the link ss2k5 provided ( thank you again), Tomas doesn't sound like much of an outfielder so I'm not sure how much interest the Sox would have unless there was a platoon with he and Abreu switching off between 1B and DH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 03:24 PM) I know the Sox are stacked with right handed hitters but I would love to know what the FO thinks about Tomas. He's young and at the age that fits into the core they are looking for. Going by the link ss2k5 provided ( thank you again), Tomas doesn't sound like much of an outfielder so I'm not sure how much interest the Sox would have unless there was a platoon with he and Abreu switching off between 1B and DH. If evaluators are split between him being somewhere between Viciedo and Cespedes, I don't think we want that for $70 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 03:24 PM) I know the Sox are stacked with right handed hitters but I would love to know what the FO thinks about Tomas. He's young and at the age that fits into the core they are looking for. Going by the link ss2k5 provided ( thank you again), Tomas doesn't sound like much of an outfielder so I'm not sure how much interest the Sox would have unless there was a platoon with he and Abreu switching off between 1B and DH. Going off of the fact that Hahn said he wasn't interested in Castillo because he was right handed, I will assume the same thing here. When I read Tomas's scouting report, I heard Dayan Viciedo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 03:27 PM) If evaluators are split between him being somewhere between Viciedo and Cespedes, I don't think we want that for $70 million. Sounds more like $100 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 01:24 PM) I know the Sox are stacked with right handed hitters but I would love to know what the FO thinks about Tomas. He's young and at the age that fits into the core they are looking for. Going by the link ss2k5 provided ( thank you again), Tomas doesn't sound like much of an outfielder so I'm not sure how much interest the Sox would have unless there was a platoon with he and Abreu switching off between 1B and DH. Defined stacked? We have Jose Abreu (and Alexei but it isn't like he's a middle of the order bat). We don't have a lot of good hitters so I really don't understand why we are going to be so picky. I could understand if we had this good lineup and needed a lefty because it was all righties but right now we still have plenty of bad hitters. Garcia is young and right handed, but obviously we like his upside. We should be finding good hitters and good players period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Tomas strikes me as a really expensive Viciedo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I wonder if Kendrys Morales would be a good fit. yeah I know who is agent is and last yr was a terrible yr for him stat wise. but I think he will come in ready for the season to performed if the salary is right. even in a 1 yr contract to rebuild his value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 03:27 PM) If evaluators are split between him being somewhere between Viciedo and Cespedes, I don't think we want that for $70 million. Yeah, being in between those two isn't overly impressive. Especially for the money. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 03:34 PM) Going off of the fact that Hahn said he wasn't interested in Castillo because he was right handed, I will assume the same thing here. When I read Tomas's scouting report, I heard Dayan Viciedo. I think you're right. One Tank is enough for this team. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 03:35 PM) Sounds more like $100 million. Yikes, never mind. QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 04:27 PM) Defined stacked? We have Jose Abreu (and Alexei but it isn't like he's a middle of the order bat). We don't have a lot of good hitters so I really don't understand why we are going to be so picky. I could understand if we had this good lineup and needed a lefty because it was all righties but right now we still have plenty of bad hitters. Garcia is young and right handed, but obviously we like his upside. We should be finding good hitters and good players period. Let's not look to far into the word shall we. Stacked, as in, a lot of right handed hitters. That is all. QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 07:15 PM) I wonder if Kendrys Morales would be a good fit. yeah I know who is agent is and last yr was a terrible yr for him stat wise. but I think he will come in ready for the season to performed if the salary is right. even in a 1 yr contract to rebuild his value. I see no problem with kicking the tires and see what he's looking for in a contract. Not the best option but not the worst either. A one year deal could benefit both Morales and the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) saw this on the rumor page. I also been wondering about it. a lot of posters have been saying that DV may not be on the roster next yr. ok, what will the sox do, try to trade him? do they non tender him? does DV have any value what so ever? I mean lets really look at his stats. the key will be the hrs. I know the stat people will answered that the rest better than I, but he still has value. he is what 25+ or so. now for me, I have never been a fan of him. I would have entertain trades ideas several yrs ago. I would non tendered him this yr, if he can't be traded. Edited October 3, 2014 by LDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 11:14 PM) saw this on the rumor page. I also been wondering about it. a lot of posters have been saying that DV may not be on the roster next yr. ok, what will the sox? do, try to trade him? do they non tender him? does DV have any value what so ever? I mean lets really look at his stats. the key will be the hrs. I know the stat people will answered that the rest better than I, but he still has value. he is what 25+ or so. now for me, I have never been a fan of him. I would have entertain trades ideas several yrs ago. I would non tendered him this yr, if he can't be traded. Hahn was able to find homes for ADA, Dunn and Beckham so I think he will find one for Tank as well. We just need to remember not to expect the world in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Here's an interesting Kiley McDaniel piece on Cuban INF Yoan Moncado. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/yoan-moncada-game-theory/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Oct 3, 2014 -> 03:30 PM) Here's an interesting Kiley McDaniel piece on Cuban INF Yoan Moncado. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/yoan-moncada-game-theory/ great find, good reading. re: Moncada, how much are the sox under in the int'l pool money? I would love to have him regardless of the penalty of going over the limit. Who would oppose to this move? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Oct 3, 2014 -> 08:30 AM) Here's an interesting Kiley McDaniel piece on Cuban INF Yoan Moncado. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/yoan-moncada-game-theory/ Interesting. It would seem that if you are his agent, you are getting him declared sometime before next July 2nd. If they can't, then it is great for the Sox as the Yanks / Red Sox are out of the race and the other big international spender would be the Dodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 3, 2014 -> 05:48 PM) Interesting. It would seem that if you are his agent, you are getting him declared sometime before next July 2nd. If they can't, then it is great for the Sox as the Yanks / Red Sox are out of the race and the other big international spender would be the Dodgers. 10 yrs 150 million for a young Puig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 3, 2014 -> 10:57 AM) 10 yrs 150 million for a young Puig. Under zero scenario, could I justify giving that much money to an unproven 19 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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