LDF Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 3, 2014 -> 06:03 PM) Under zero scenario, could I justify giving that much money to an unproven 19 year old. I say yes, b/c as much as I hate to say this, I want him, but what numbers will be the bidding begin and the numbers of yrs being thrown around. second, he can be a great fixture for many yrs to come. has there been scouting rpts on him already? I may be wrong. edit. made on mental corrections. Edited October 3, 2014 by LDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 3, 2014 -> 12:39 PM) great find, good reading. re: Moncada, how much are the sox under in the int'l pool money? I would love to have him regardless of the penalty of going over the limit. Who would oppose to this move? Why? IIRC, I think they had just under a million dollars left, but I am not positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 3, 2014 -> 06:19 PM) IIRC, I think they had just under a million dollars left, but I am not positive. many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 3, 2014 -> 01:25 PM) many thanks. Actually I remembered wrong because of a bad signing number... it is actually $1.6 million left. The White Sox might actually have more international money left than anyone under the caps. Now that doesn't mean teams won't pay the tax to go over. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...t&p=3011138 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 3, 2014 -> 06:46 PM) Actually I remembered wrong because of a bad signing number... it is actually $1.6 million left. The White Sox might actually have more international money left than anyone under the caps. Now that doesn't mean teams won't pay the tax to go over. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...t&p=3011138 1.6 mil, will the sox enter the mix and spend for the talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 George Ofman @georgeofman · 31m 31 minutes ago Look for White Sox to bid high for Cuban free agent Yasmany Tomas. Power corner outfielder who knows Abreu. https://twitter.com/georgeofman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 QUOTE (Baron @ Oct 7, 2014 -> 02:17 PM) George Ofman @georgeofman · 31m 31 minutes ago Look for White Sox to bid high for Cuban free agent Yasmany Tomas. Power corner outfielder who knows Abreu. https://twitter.com/georgeofman Based on what? They didn't even attend his work out according to the press reports of who was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 7, 2014 -> 02:25 PM) Based on what? They didn't even attend his work out according to the press reports of who was there. Exactly what I was wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 7, 2014 -> 08:25 PM) Based on what? They didn't even attend his work out according to the press reports of who was there. unless they are getting overflowing encouragement form Jose A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 7, 2014 -> 02:25 PM) Based on what? They didn't even attend his work out according to the press reports of who was there. Based on he's Cuban and knows Jose Abreu, OBVIOUSLY DUH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 QUOTE (Baron @ Oct 7, 2014 -> 02:26 PM) Exactly what I was wondering. I have seen zero connection between the White Sox and Tomas. There was plenty of news about the Sox seeing Viciedo and Abreu ahead of time, and of them wanting him. I have literally seen NO stories about the Sox scouting or having interest in Tomas, besides this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I just asked George about where this came from and mentioned Abreu. It's definitely from Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 QUOTE (Baron @ Oct 7, 2014 -> 02:57 PM) I just asked George about where this came from and mentioned Abreu. It's definitely from Jose. Interesting to know. More than anything, it excites me that Jose loves it on the southside enough to be recruiting for us already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 7, 2014 -> 03:06 PM) Interesting to know. More than anything, it excites me that Jose loves it on the southside enough to be recruiting for us already. That and the front office seems to trust him quite a bit. Good to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 7, 2014 -> 01:39 PM) I have seen zero connection between the White Sox and Tomas. There was plenty of news about the Sox seeing Viciedo and Abreu ahead of time, and of them wanting him. I have literally seen NO stories about the Sox scouting or having interest in Tomas, besides this one. From what I understand, every team had someone at his first public showcase, but the Sox haven't been listed as being at anything since. I saw the Padres had a private workout with him, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Bout time. I say if they think the guy can hit and play then who cares what hand he uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Ben Badler @BenBadler 3m3 minutes ago One team has seen Cuban OF Yasmany Tomas three times in the last three weeks, including a private workout yesterday: http://bit.ly/1uCJypi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 re: Tomas, when will be the final decision be made. is there a timeline? about any other int'l players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 11, 2014 -> 07:32 PM) re: Tomas, when will be the final decision be made. is there a timeline? about any other int'l players? IMO, some team will try to get this done before the full free agent period starts in early December so that they don't have to worry about the qualifying offer decisions, but not too much before then. They also won't want the press releases stomped by the World Series. Mid November for these international guys, that's when Abreu signed last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 12, 2014 -> 12:34 AM) IMO, some team will try to get this done before the full free agent period starts in early December so that they don't have to worry about the qualifying offer decisions, but not too much before then. They also won't want the press releases stomped by the World Series. Mid November for these international guys, that's when Abreu signed last year. thanks a very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 with the couple of Cubans that just defected, any interesting players to look for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 3, 2014 -> 12:39 PM) great find, good reading. re: Moncada, how much are the sox under in the int'l pool money? I would love to have him regardless of the penalty of going over the limit. Who would oppose to this move? Why? The only way the Sox are players are if : 1. Moncada is not declared a FA until July 2. The Sox can get deals done with a large number July 2 prospects 3. Payroll stays around the $80-$85M range 4. The Dodgers dont want him 5. JR decides with Bud gone he is not going to be the only one sticking to the letter of the law Moncada is a very exciting prospect, would love for the Sox to be able to nab him, though given that he is subject to the international bonus pools I have not been optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 17, 2014 -> 07:42 AM) with the couple of Cubans that just defected, any interesting players to look for? Jose Fernandez, a LH second baseman, is regarded by some as the best player remaining in Cuba after Abreu left. Badler ranked him #3 in his Cuban player rankings behind two guys that will seemingly never defect (Despaigne and Gouriel). Great on base skills and very good contact hitter, not a runner and defense is around average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Moncada seems like a pipe dream just because of the implications. Also, our front office doesn't seem like the type to sacrifice future signings for a specific guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 17, 2014 -> 09:32 AM) Moncada seems like a pipe dream just because of the implications. Also, our front office doesn't seem like the type to sacrifice future signings for a specific guy. Agree, but it is nice to dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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