Jerksticks Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 ^^haha yea it sure seems like we already have this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 fangraph has an article on hit tools and with Tomas. good reading. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/scouting-the-hit-tool-pt-6/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 17, 2014 -> 08:49 PM) fangraph has an article on hit tools and with Tomas. good reading. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/scouting-the-hit-tool-pt-6/ thanks for the link enjoy fangraphs but that was just sorta a confusing article imo. The hit tool should be simply defined as the ability to hit to all fields for average in games. It doesn't really matter how you get there. Now, obviously there is a subjective element of "speed through the hitting zone" but a guy like Adam Eaton probably has below average bat speed all things considered but because he can spray the ball all over and run, he has a very good hit tool. A guy like Dayan is quick through the zone with oomph but his timing is so awful he can't hit for any average. His hit tool is below average but he has above average bat speed. The anti-Eaton. Edited October 18, 2014 by chitownsportsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Oct 18, 2014 -> 03:49 AM) thanks for the link enjoy fangraphs but that was just sorta a confusing article imo. The hit tool should be simply defined as the ability to hit to all fields for average in games. It doesn't really matter how you get there. Now, obviously there is a subjective element of "speed through the hitting zone" but a guy like Adam Eaton probably has below average bat speed all things considered but because he can spray the ball all over and run, he has a very good hit tool. A guy like Dayan is quick through the zone with oomph but his timing is so awful he can't hit for any average. His hit tool is below average but he has above average bat speed. The anti-Eaton. confusing, hell yeah. but I am not a stat guy, I thought the stat guys would say things and I may pick up the pieces. for me and I am just basing this on imo, but DV problem seems to me that he can't pick up the pitches or the kind of pitches when it leaves the pitchers hand. maybe he needs glasses like Flowers. Edited October 18, 2014 by LDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 thanks for the link enjoy fangraphs but that was just sorta a confusing article imo. The hit tool should be simply defined as the ability to hit to all fields for average in games. It doesn't really matter how you get there. Now, obviously there is a subjective element of "speed through the hitting zone" but a guy like Adam Eaton probably has below average bat speed all things considered but because he can spray the ball all over and run, he has a very good hit tool. A guy like Dayan is quick through the zone with oomph but his timing is so awful he can't hit for any average. His hit tool is below average but he has above average bat speed. The anti-Eaton. The bat does tend to get through the zone quicker when it isn't contacting the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 19, 2014 -> 12:00 AM) The bat does tend to get through the zone quicker when it isn't contacting the ball. that is funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 17, 2014 -> 09:41 AM) i am a little confuse. would you rather sign Tomas or Fernandez? Here is a snippet from BA on Jose Fernandez, who's whereabouts are currently unknown: "During the 2013-14 season playing for Matanzas in Serie Nacional, the 5-foot-10, 185-pound Fernandez hit .326/.482/.456 with 65 walks and 10 strikeouts in 314 plate appearances, ranking second in the league in OBP. This season, which started in September, Fernandez was off to a .315/.415/.426 start with only one strikeout in 65 plate appearances." http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...jose-fernandez/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Oct 20, 2014 -> 10:27 AM) Here is a snippet from BA on Jose Fernandez, who's whereabouts are currently unknown: "During the 2013-14 season playing for Matanzas in Serie Nacional, the 5-foot-10, 185-pound Fernandez hit .326/.482/.456 with 65 walks and 10 strikeouts in 314 plate appearances, ranking second in the league in OBP. This season, which started in September, Fernandez was off to a .315/.415/.426 start with only one strikeout in 65 plate appearances." http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...jose-fernandez/ seeing how he is 26, left handed and plays second base I wouldn't be against the sox going after him and utilizing their substantial depth at MI to make a deal. I would prefer they keep Semien and break him in as the UTL role and platoon partner with Conor at 3B ideally taking over at SS or 3B if Conor falters or if Alexei gets traded. That frees up Micah, Sanchez and if the right deal came along Anderson to be moved. Eaton Semien Fernandez In front of Abreu really excites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 QUOTE (beautox @ Oct 20, 2014 -> 03:10 PM) seeing how he is 26, left handed and plays second base I wouldn't be against the sox going after him and utilizing their substantial depth at MI to make a deal. I would prefer they keep Semien and break him in as the UTL role and platoon partner with Conor at 3B ideally taking over at SS or 3B if Conor falters or if Alexei gets traded. That frees up Micah, Sanchez and if the right deal came along Anderson to be moved. Eaton Semien Fernandez In front of Abreu really excites We'll see how well Rusney Castillo does. The Dodgers signed a couple of Cubans for the middle infield (in the $20-30 million range) and neither of them have made an impact yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 04:31 AM) We'll see how well Rusney Castillo does. The Dodgers signed a couple of Cubans for the middle infield (in the $20-30 million range) and neither of them have made an impact yet. I forgot where I read that some teams were not too high on Castillo hitting. I even can imagine on how some org thought of the same about Jose A. look at the success of Jose A and this is why I am thinking that Bos overreacted in signing Castillo. the sox were not even in the slightest interested in him. nah don't get me wrong, I hope he does well. but not against the sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 So is it safe to assume Fernandez negotiations will start off with Castillo's contract and go from there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 03:26 PM) So is it safe to assume Fernandez negotiations will start off with Castillo's contract and go from there? To be fair, we don't even know for sure that Fernandez has defected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 08:26 PM) So is it safe to assume Fernandez negotiations will start off with Castillo's contract and go from there? if Fernandez is available. I hate to say this but you are right with the contract starting at his contract numbers. I wonder what people think his upside is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 03:47 PM) To be fair, we don't even know for sure that Fernandez has defected. So, for now, its just assumed Fernandez has defected. Thanks for clarifying. QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 04:50 PM) if Fernandez is available. I hate to say this but you are right with the contract starting at his contract numbers. I wonder what people think his upside is? Not sure about his upside but I'm curious myself. I like that he's a contact hitter that strikes out very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 21, 2014 -> 11:10 PM) So, for now, its just assumed Fernandez has defected. Thanks for clarifying. Not sure about his upside but I'm curious myself. I like that he's a contact hitter that strikes out very little. I wonder if he can play in the outfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 22, 2014 -> 06:09 AM) I wonder if he can play in the outfield. Its doubtful given that he does not have good speed and is not really thought of as a good defender at all. Though with him at 2B, it would give the Sox a chance to turn Micah into Carl Crawford when he was young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Oct 22, 2014 -> 02:54 PM) Its doubtful given that he does not have good speed and is not really thought of as a good defender at all. Though with him at 2B, it would give the Sox a chance to turn Micah into Carl Crawford when he was young. interesting thought. for what its worth, I have concerns with his arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 22, 2014 -> 10:09 AM) interesting thought. for what its worth, I have concerns with his arm. Maybe a young Juan Pierre then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Oct 22, 2014 -> 03:18 PM) Maybe a young Juan Pierre then? pls I will deal with a Crawford type player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 24m24 minutes ago Source: #DBacks held private workout for Yasmany Tomas today. Told he "absolutely demolished" the baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Closing this catch all. Separate threads should be created for different stories, etc. This has become far too much of a catch-all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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