caulfield12 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Grilli warming up for the Angels. I think this might be his first appearance since the Frieri change-of-scenery trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 10:16 PM) I have no clue.. It is probably him putting more pressure on himself and he just doesn't perform. But why didn't he do that in other years? Does it not make more sense that by splitting each player's stats into RISP and non-RISP that you're going to get some players who have disparities, particularly when you're talking about (Beckham's 64 PA with RISP in 2014) a little over 2% of a player's career plate appearances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Dunn making that a lot harder than it needed to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Off day Thursday no excuse to see Noesi/Carroll back to back ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 How can you rule an error on the shortstop when he goes after it with his bare hand? Okay, Rosenberg changed it. Or he was going to be Heisenberg'ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 10:21 PM) Why not give Hanson a try cannot do any worse than what we are seeing? You mean besides his 6.16 ERA/6.21 FIP at Charlotte this season, or him not having pitched for a month because he's on the disabled list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:26 PM) Off day Thursday no excuse to see Noesi/Carroll back to back ever again. Carroll's done. Has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 So why have the Sox been so awful at signing free agents off of other teams major league roster? Over the last two years, the Sox have gotten little to no production from: - Belisario - Downs - Boggs - Keppinger - Paulino Lindstrom has been the best FA signing (off of MLB roster) during Hahn's tenure. It possibly illustrates a major weakness in the scouting department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 10:28 PM) You mean besides his 6.16 ERA/6.21 FIP at Charlotte this season, or him not having pitched for a month because he's on the disabled list? Performance never stopped you from pushing De Aza daily. I know he is on DL I mean at some point this year. Edited July 2, 2014 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Guys I think trading Hector Santiago for Adam Eaton was a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 10:30 PM) That never stopped you pushing De Aza daily Actually I was pushing De Aza because I said his stats didn't match up to what he was actually doing. I think he's shown that to be the case. With Hanson, I pointed out his FIP in addition to his ERA to show that his stats match up to what he's doing. Which is not very much. Plus, he's injured. Or "injured". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:28 PM) So why have the Sox been so awful at signing free agents off of other teams major league roster? Over the last two years, the Sox have gotten little to no production from: - Belisario - Downs - Boggs - Keppinger - Paulino Lindstrom has been the best FA signing (off of MLB roster) during Hahn's tenure. It possibly illustrates a major weakness in the scouting department. They've always been better with the Putnams, Guerras, Cletos, Humbers, Loaiza, DeAza, Matt Thornton, Santos, Jenks "under the radar" type of moves. Carlos Quentin, or Jose Quintana, for example. Belisario would arguably have been fine if he'd been left alone in the 7th/8th inning. With Boggs, the Cardinals wouldn't have given up on him if they thought he could be fixed...of course, their bullpen has 10X more depth and competition, so that was the second reason they felt comfortable moving on. If you add up all those salaries, it doesn't amount to Jake Peavy or Alex Rios. Edited July 2, 2014 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 10:25 PM) But why didn't he do that in other years? Does it not make more sense that by splitting each player's stats into RISP and non-RISP that you're going to get some players who have disparities, particularly when you're talking about (Beckham's 64 PA with RISP in 2014) a little over 2% of a player's career plate appearances? I believe that Beckham has been horrible with RISP this season.. That is all I really care about.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Angels fans have to be loving Hill and Grilli so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 10:36 PM) Beckham w/ RISP .200/.297/.327/.624 Bad, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:33 PM) I believe that Beckham has been horrible with RISP this season.. That is all I really care about.. And he has been. The point is that it's not a stat that's been shown to be predictive going forward. To me, it's random. If I told you Beckham was hitting great during the day and awful at night this year, would you say he has a problem batting at night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Just awful luck for the Sox that inning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Slick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 10:39 PM) And he has been. The point is that it's not a stat that's been shown to be predictive going forward. To me, it's random. If I told you Beckham was hitting great during the day and awful at night this year, would you say he has a problem batting at night? I think that is comparing apples to oranges.. Hitting with RISP is something that is mentioned a lot is actually important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Angels 7-5 thru 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:40 PM) Just awful luck for the Sox that inning What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Beckham not hitting for Garcia shouldn't be the issue. The issue should be that you have one of the poorest hitting players in the majors batting in front of your main offensive threat. Ventura's making a lot of decisions that are making very little sense. Edited July 2, 2014 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 10:42 PM) What happened? Viciedo rips a slider to short where Aybar had to make a leaping grab to make the out. De Aza crushes a ball right up the middle, goes off Grilli's glove, slows it up and turn two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 1, 2014 -> 09:42 PM) I think that is comparing apples to oranges.. Hitting with RISP is something that is mentioned a lot is actually important. Well, it's important in terms of its outcome, but to me it's not something that players really control. Anyway, interesting to see other people's perspective on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Leury providing his always stellar D....not. He's been such a disappointment defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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