7/2 Games

[witesoxfan]

No sure, I get the concept, I've been fine with pretty much every lightning bolt they've tried to catch, just saying that this guy is absolutely broken. When you're walking way more guys than Maikel Cleto, you're pretty much boned.

 

(And maybe a part of me feels guilty that the Knights lead MiLB in attendance and they're being subjected to this )

 

Guys that throw 98 MPH are hard to find. If you can find one, you try and get him to throw strikes. Would you rather they have Bobby Korecky?

[southsider2k5]

I didn't realize that Jared Mitchell is still only 25.

[Feeky Magee]

Guys that throw 98 MPH are hard to find. If you can find one, you try and get him to throw strikes. Would you rather they have Bobby Korecky?

Yes

[GreenSox]

I didn't realize that Jared Mitchell is still only 25.

It's good to see; you never know about these minor leaguers. Mitchell joined this organization high-school raw, even though he had played in college.

[witesoxfan]

Yes

 

Bobby Korecky has absolutely no value to a major league team. It's the same thing as Yohan Pino and Dylan Axelrod. They can perform well in AA and AAA, but then they get to the majors and good hitters destroy them.

[Feeky Magee]

Bobby Korecky has absolutely no value to a major league team. It's the same thing as Yohan Pino and Dylan Axelrod. They can perform well in AA and AAA, but then they get to the majors and good hitters destroy them.

I missed that he was 34, but I'd wager there's a stronger history of guys with constant ERAs in the 2s and 3s in the minors contributing in the majors than guys following seasons of giving up the amount of walks Rodriguez has. Give me Pino over him any day, dude has struck out nearly 7 per 9 and walked way less than 2 per 9 in the majors this year, only been boned by almost half of his allowed baserunners scoring.

[witesoxfan]

I missed that he was 34, but I'd wager there's a stronger history of guys with constant ERAs in the 2s and 3s in the minors contributing in the majors than guys following seasons of giving up the amount of walks Rodriguez has. Give me Pino over him any day, dude has struck out nearly 7 per 9 and walked way less than 2 per 9 in the majors this year, only been boned by almost half of his allowed baserunners scoring.

 

Yohan Pino has pitched 15 innings at the MLB level. Dylan Axelrod came up, pitched in 4 games, and put this up:

 

ERA 2.89

FIP of 3.29

xFIP 3.88

K/9 9.16

BB/9 4.34

BABIP .327

 

You look at those numbers and say "holy hell, if he could just hone it in a bit, you have a great starting pitcher here."

 

Except that he has absolutely no stuff and hitters catch on quickly and that's how you end up with a 5.68 ERA over 128 innings the following season which was then followed by being non-tendered a contract in the offseason which was then followed by nobody showing interest in him whatsoever.

 

 

[Feeky Magee]

Yohan Pino has pitched 15 innings at the MLB level. Dylan Axelrod came up, pitched in 4 games, and put this up:

 

ERA 2.89

FIP of 3.29

xFIP 3.88

K/9 9.16

BB/9 4.34

BABIP .327

 

You look at those numbers and say "holy hell, if he could just hone it in a bit, you have a great starting pitcher here."

 

Except that he has absolutely no stuff and hitters catch on quickly and that's how you end up with a 5.68 ERA over 128 innings the following season which was then followed by being non-tendered a contract in the offseason which was then followed by nobody showing interest in him whatsoever.

Good point. However, my main point is not that "I'd rather guys putting up alright results with bad stuff than guys with electric stuff but no results", I said earlier that I get, and support, other lightning/bottle attempts, but that I'd take almost anything over Henry Rodriguez, who is absolutely dead as anything right now. Is there one player in the history of baseball who has given up as many walks as Rodriguez has in the past 2 years and gone on to be successful? He's a Daniel Bard.

[caulfield12]

Yes

 

 

Putnam usually throws in the 80's and he's been a great success because of the movement on his pitches. Partly, it's because nearly every MLB bullpen is filled with guys throwing mid 90's and up, so a soft tosser like a Wasserman, Wunsch, Bradford or even Putnam's a total shock even if they do have video and a scouting report.

Edited July 3, 2014 by caulfield12

[witesoxfan]

Good point. However, my main point is not that "I'd rather guys putting up alright results with bad stuff than guys with electric stuff but no results", I said earlier that I get, and support, other lightning/bottle attempts, but that I'd take almost anything over Henry Rodriguez, who is absolutely dead as anything right now. Is there one player in the history of baseball who has given up as many walks as Rodriguez has in the past 2 years and gone on to be successful? He's a Daniel Bard.

 

They have Taylor Thompson and Deunte Heath and Matt Zaleski and Charlie Leesman. Don't really need any more than that, and if they need more, they're always available.

[Bigsoxhurt35]

So without further adieu......

 

 

The Jim Thome Effect-

 

.315 avg, 5 HR, 5 2B, 11 RBI, 7 BB, 12 K in 15 games. The K's are down, the walks are up, the power is up.

Bless Jim Thome!