Feeky Magee Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) 9 for his last 100 (7 singles and 2 homers) with 6 walks and 47 strikeouts. That's good for a line of .090/.148/.150 Internal options: - Nieto hitting .242/.319/.306 on the year, wRC+ of 76. (.405 BABIP and a K rate of 35.7%) - Phegley hitting .246/.320/.481 at AAA, wRC+ of 117 (plus question marks on defence) - Smith hitting .305/.387/.473 at AA, wRC+ of 143 You could argue that with not wanting Nieto to be overwhelmed plus the question marks on Phegley's D that everyone should stay put for now without someone coming in, but I wouldn't shed any tears with a Flowers DFA and everyone else moving up a level. It'd at least give them more of a chance to see what they have in Nieto/Phegley before the trade deadline, where presumably they'd love to bring in a catcher. It'd also mean the best catching prospect in the system was at a more age-appropriate level. Edited July 9, 2014 by Feeky Magee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 2015, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Phegley pls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) When he is not the best option we have. He sucks at hitting, but he can handle a pitching staff. Meanwhile, Phegley sucks at hitting (at least at the majors), can't play defense and does not handle a pitching staff well by all accounts. Nieto is just not that good right now. He obviously wouldn't be in the Majors but for being a Rule 5 Draft Pick. Smith needs to continue to hit at AA and then repeat at AAA. Flowers is still the Sox system's tallest midget. It's pretty well known that Hahn does not like any of his options. And it is the position where he is trying to upgrade the most. He wanted Castro from Houston. And I guarantee he is looking all over. But good catchers don't grow on trees. Edited July 9, 2014 by maggsmaggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I wouldn't be able to argue with calling up Phegley, but I have a feeling his horrid D will offset any of the small gains at the plate. I'd rather see Kevan Smith, honestly, but that probably doesn't put him in a position to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I'd rather just see Nieto maybe get 40% of the ABs instead of only once a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I say Nieto starts 3-4 games a week and Flowers 2-3 for a few weeks then if Nieto is hitting under .200 bring up Phegley and Nieto the back up. There is no way Nieto hits under .100 in his next 100 AB's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 All the reports are that Kevan Smith is a work in progress defensively. The last thing we want to do is derail his current offensive confidence and force him up to AAA or the majors when nobody thinks he's close to ready. Either they give Phegley another shot or find someone to come back in return for Danks/DeAza/Ramirez/Beckham/Dunn/Belisario/Putnam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 07:15 PM) I say Nieto starts 3-4 games a week and Flowers 2-3 for a few weeks then if Nieto is hitting under .200 bring up Phegley and Nieto the back up. There is no way Nieto hits under .100 in his next 100 AB's Don't be so sure. He was in High A last season at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 08:18 PM) Don't be so sure. He was in High A last season at this time. Nieto has shown a lot more patience lately and I just can't see him hitting worse then Flowers.. At least he would be getting AB's and developing more. I can't watch Flowers bat anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Here's my question: Nieto has to stay up all of this season. Can the Sox send him to AAA or AA next season to get him playing time, without the risk of losing him back to Washington? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 07:23 PM) Here's my question: Nieto has to stay up all of this season. Can the Sox send him to AAA or AA next season to get him playing time, without the risk of losing him back to Washington? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Flowers can handle a pitching staff? The Sox have a 4.16 team ERA which is good for 6th worst in baseball. What exactly is he handling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 08:36 PM) Flowers can handle a pitching staff? The Sox have a 4.16 team ERA which is good for 6th worst in baseball. What exactly is he handling? Robin?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord chas Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 If the Sox make some deadline moves I hope we can get another catcher in the system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hopefully Nieto will get more work after the all star break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 QUOTE (lord chas @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 01:41 AM) If the Sox make some deadline moves I hope we can get another catcher in the system +1...this and another starting pitcher have got to be the priority. Last year, Hahn seemed to target guys who might be blocked at the big league level, but were ready (or close to being ready) for the majors. Anyone fit this billing at the catcher position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I'd slowly work in more starts for Nieto. Maybe pick another pitcher whose repertoire he has to master, if that's one of the issues. Get him the right matchups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Jason Castro was the only catcher listed on the Heyman list of 60 players who might be traded. Grandal has been mentioned numerous times, but they're unlikely to sell low on him. Edited July 9, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 08:36 PM) Robin?? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 09:14 PM) ? You asked what he was handling. I said Robin... I guess you don't get the joke.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 8, 2014 -> 07:07 PM) When he is not the best option we have. He sucks at hitting, but he can handle a pitching staff. Meanwhile, Phegley sucks at hitting (at least at the majors), can't play defense and does not handle a pitching staff well by all accounts. Nieto is just not that good right now. He obviously wouldn't be in the Majors but for being a Rule 5 Draft Pick. Smith needs to continue to hit at AA and then repeat at AAA. Flowers is still the Sox system's tallest midget. It's pretty well known that Hahn does not like any of his options. And it is the position where he is trying to upgrade the most. He wanted Castro from Houston. And I guarantee he is looking all over. But good catchers don't grow on trees. Sums it up pretty well. As horrendous a hitter as he is he's a pretty darn good catcher. For awhile, we're stuck with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Flowers is leading the league in passed balls... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Flowers is safe for 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Flowers is pretty sturdy defender back there. Isn't the catcher position pretty abysmal throughout baseball hitting wise? Somebody was touting McCann for the all star game and he's hitting .230 with a .289 on base percentage. Obviously I'm down on Flowers the hitter, but it's nice to have a guy with a good arm back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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