NorthSideSox72 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Baseball America now reporting $6.582M for Rodon signing. This puts them over the limit and into 75% tax penalty territory on the overage (by about 385k), but stays just/short of draft pick loss territory. Also means Montes de Oca and Choplick almost assuredly won't be signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 01:07 PM) Baseball America now reporting $6.582M for Rodon signing. This puts them over the limit and into 75% tax penalty territory on the overage (by about 385k), but stays just/short of draft pick loss territory. Also means Montes de Oca and Choplick almost assuredly won't be signed. The interesting thing about that number is that you'd assume Boras was absolutely trying to get them into "forfeit the pick" territory, which would have been a fascinating (and terrible) precedent to set. That Boras has some stones, can't take that from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:09 PM) The interesting thing about that number is that you'd assume Boras was absolutely trying to get them into "forfeit the pick" territory, which would have been a fascinating (and terrible) precedent to set. That Boras has some stones, can't take that from him. I don't even think a ruthless guy like Boras would be pushing for them to forfeit a future pick. That is nuts, no team would ever do that. I am frankly shocked we offered that much. My guess is that Montes De Oca indicated he wasn't signable and we needed to get Rodon into the fold and create some goodwill with Boras. Edited July 10, 2014 by southside hitman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Seems like a win for all parties... Boras got his guy the most money possible, Rodon and his family are set for life and the Sox got a very exciting young player in the mix. *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 You guys don't understand the pull of the University of Missouri. Nobody can turn it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Article on the signing up on FutureSox, with gory math detailshttp://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2014/...on-for-6582000/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 08:45 PM) Article on the signing up on FutureSox, with gory math detailshttp://www.chicagonow.com/future-sox/2014/...on-for-6582000/. Well done. edit: what does the league do with the tax on the sox? Edited July 10, 2014 by bmags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:57 PM) Well done. edit: what does the league do with the tax on the sox? Turn it into gold coins, fill a swimming pool, and swim in it like Scrooge McDuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 06:43 PM) If a club exceeds its SBP in a given Rule 4 Draft, a tax will be assessed and future Rule 4 Draft picks could be forfeited, depending on how much the club exceeded its SBP. (The club’s 1st Round draft pick in the next Rule 4 Draft is forfeited if the club exceeds its SBP by 5-10%, its 1st & 2nd round draft picks in the next Rule 4 Draft are forfeited if the club exceeds its SBP by 10-15%, and the club’s 1st Round picks in the next two Rule 4 Drafts are forfeited if the club exceeds its SBP by more than 15%). So basically they can go over by 4.999999% and not get punished, but anything after that and not happening. No club is going to forfeit a 1st round pick, unless there is a compelling reason. thank I appreciate the info. now to look at it this way, the sox lost in the neg battle with Rodon and his camp. however if you want to look at it with rose colored glasses, we won b/c we sign Rodon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Bruce Levine @MLBBruceLevine · 10m Baseball source confirms Carlos Rodon signs a $6.82 million deal with White Sox . @BaseballAmerica first report . ReplyReplied to 0 times RetweetRetweeted 11 times11 FavoriteFavorited 6 times6 Levine just wrote the incorrect $$ figure right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 04:29 PM) Bruce Levine @MLBBruceLevine · 10m Baseball source confirms Carlos Rodon signs a $6.82 million deal with White Sox . @BaseballAmerica first report . ReplyReplied to 0 times RetweetRetweeted 11 times11 FavoriteFavorited 6 times6 Levine just wrote the incorrect $$ figure right? Well I saw 6.582 from BA, not 6.82. I would be BA's number is correct, because 6.82 puts them into pick-losing territory. Bruce must have mistyped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 04:29 PM) Bruce Levine @MLBBruceLevine · 10m Baseball source confirms Carlos Rodon signs a $6.82 million deal with White Sox . @BaseballAmerica first report . ReplyReplied to 0 times RetweetRetweeted 11 times11 FavoriteFavorited 6 times6 Levine just wrote the incorrect $$ figure right? That is just Bruce wishing Sox would lose 2015 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Still waiting for official statement from Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 06:32 PM) Still waiting for official statement from Sox True, but I doubt they'd let WhiteSox.com publish a story saying that terms have been agreed to without it being essentially done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 The official statement won't come from the Sox til they get the results from Rodon's physical. Can't put the cart before the horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 08:32 PM) The official statement won't come from the Sox til they get the results from Rodon's physical. Can't put the cart before the horse. Don't tell me what I can and can't do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Please tell me Rodon is a righty. When is he due to join the rotation? What's the projected year of his arrival on the big league team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 12:00 AM) Please tell me Rodon is a righty. When is he due to join the rotation? What's the projected year of his arrival on the big league team? No. He's a LHP. He's also a potential ace and will most likely be in the rotation at some point next season. Checkout some you tubes if you get a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Great nugget I heard tonight. They were asking upwards of 7. Thats what took so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 01:26 PM) But if Boras had done ANY negotiating on his behalf, going back to college wouldn't be an option, would it? Signing an agent ends your college status, i thought. That would leave what, Independent league? Joliet Slammers? NCAA lightened up on the baseball kids when it became apparent how anti-player their definition of amateurism was. Asking the kids to negotiate multi-million dollar contracts with industry experts with only the help of their parents is just a recipe for disaster. They could hardly access the regulations that governed their interactions with an agent without an agent to tell them what the rules were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 11:31 PM) Great nugget I heard tonight. They were asking upwards of 7. Thats what took so long. Lol asking for the moon. Nothing wrong with asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 09:14 PM) Don't tell me what I can and can't do. All these years people have told me I was nuts when I would tell them society is all kinds of backwards. You my friend just confirmed they are the ones that are nuts. So does the horse push the cart or the cart pull the horse? QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 12:14 AM) No. He's a LHP. He's also a potential ace and will most likely be in the rotation at some point next season. Checkout some you tubes if you get a chance. Two of the best sliders in baseball pitching on the same staff is just sooo sexy! QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 12:31 AM) Great nugget I heard tonight. They were asking upwards of 7. Thats what took so long. That explains it. Thanks for the nugget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 01:00 AM) Please tell me Rodon is a righty. When is he due to join the rotation? What's the projected year of his arrival on the big league team? Pitch all the lefties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 12:38 AM) NCAA lightened up on the baseball kids when it became apparent how anti-player their definition of amateurism was. Asking the kids to negotiate multi-million dollar contracts with industry experts with only the help of their parents is just a recipe for disaster. They could hardly access the regulations that governed their interactions with an agent without an agent to tell them what the rules were It is pretty unfair, but they did nail someone last year for having an "advisor" get a little too involved when he returned to college. I think he got a suspension. And an article I read said the White Sox turned someone in for the same thing a few years ago. If Rodon didn't sign and Boras was significantly involved, I would imagine there would have been some sort of issue. But that means nothing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 12:00 AM) Please tell me Rodon is a righty. When is he due to join the rotation? What's the projected year of his arrival on the big league team? Sometimes when you wander into threads, it is immediate gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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