caulfield12 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Blown saves/Total Team Wins X % of blown saves 30. Houston 0.2132 29. Colorado 0.16873 28. NY Mets 0.16065 27. Cubs 0.1264 26. Miami 0.10915 25. White Sox 0.10647 24. Arizona 0.10472 23. Pirates 0.10132 22. Rangers 0.09731 21. Giants 0.0848 Do the White Sox have a bad bullpen because they aren't good (expected to compete) or they're not good because of their bullpen? The truth lies somewhere in between. Of the competitive teams from this list, you'll find only the Marlins, Pirates and Giants. Of course, the Pirates traded for Frieri and the Giants demoted Sergio Romo already. You can also safely say that Addison Reed in the Chicago pen wouldn't have made an appreciable difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Not that there's not some correlation but since when did blown saves/total team wins x % of blown saves equal overall bullpen quality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataipaepae Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 10:41 PM) Blown saves/Total Team Wins X % of blown saves 30. Houston 0.2132 29. Colorado 0.16873 28. NY Mets 0.16065 27. Cubs 0.1264 26. Miami 0.10915 25. White Sox 0.10647 24. Arizona 0.10472 23. Pirates 0.10132 22. Rangers 0.09731 21. Giants 0.0848 Do the White Sox have a bad bullpen because they aren't good (expected to compete) or they're not good because of their bullpen? The truth lies somewhere in between. Of the competitive teams from this list, you'll find only the Marlins, Pirates and Giants. Of course, the Pirates traded for Frieri and the Giants demoted Sergio Romo already. You can also safely say that Addison Reed in the Chicago pen wouldn't have made an appreciable difference. You would think getting Lindstrom and jones back healthy would make a big difference in the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 When you have 5 guys in your bullpen that started the year in AAA you are bound to have a bad bullpen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 That seems like not a good way to measure overall bullpen quality. Should meltdowns in other innings not count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Well, the simplest thing is to look at team record when leading after 6, after 7 and after 8. Some teams have a knack for coming back to win when there's a blown save, others collapse. Then you have to look at the extent of the blown save, 1, 2 or 3 run leads. For example, the announcers were saying the Giants have the 3rd best bullpen by ERA, in the 2's...Well, that's not accurate, because they're not successful closing out the game, so who cares about ERA in the 6th-8th?? Just a way to measure impact (very simplistic) on a team's chances of winning games. It's no surprise, for example, that the Astros aren't terribly concerned (yet) with winning games, although I think Luhnow will definitely have to make it more of a priority in 2015 if they ever want to turn the corner with all that incoming offensive talent and get them to buy into the belief they can become a playoff-contending team. Edited July 10, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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