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QUOTE (ron883 @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 08:31 PM)
Ravelo used to be a 3b, and now he switched to first. I doubt he can be much worse than Viciedo in the OF. I wonder why the sox haven't tried him there to maximize his bat.

Not the whole story, but Viciedo is listed at 5'11"/230 and Ravelo at 6'2"/207. He also steals bases with much higher frequency than Viciedo did/does. I wouldn't be averse to a trial.

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Anyone know much about Dane Stone? Posted some really good K:BB ratios as a reliever with the Marlins between rookie ball and high-A, went to indie ball where he pitched well enough to get signed by the Sox and now has a 1.53 ERA with Great Falls in 5 starts. Obvious caveat is that he's 23 in rookie ball, but interesting numbers nonetheless: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...&position=P

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 09:08 AM)
For everyone saying they want Ravelo in AAA, I agree he's ready, but there is absolutely nowhere to put him right now. Likely that changes in the next few weeks as trades loosen things up, but until then, it won't kill him to stay in AA a few more weeks.

Considering we're in no place to sell our prospects, wouldn't this deadline and the draft and international signings tighten things up?

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QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 10:05 AM)
Considering we're in no place to sell our prospects, wouldn't this deadline and the draft and international signings tighten things up?

Draft won't clog the top. And the crowding problem is mostly about the infield - Sanchez, Saladino, Semien, Davidson to play 3 skill IF positions. With Wilkins at 1B. Once a likely trade of Beckham and/or Ramirez occurs, one or more of those guys will be in Chicago most likely, thus opening up playing time and allowing Ravelo to split time at 1B/DH with Wilkins. For that matter, Dunn may be traded too, and it is possible Wilkins also goes to Chicago.

 

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 10:09 AM)
Draft won't clog the top. And the crowding problem is mostly about the infield - Sanchez, Saladino, Semien, Davidson to play 3 skill IF positions. With Wilkins at 1B. Once a likely trade of Beckham and/or Ramirez occurs, one or more of those guys will be in Chicago most likely, thus opening up playing time and allowing Ravelo to split time at 1B/DH with Wilkins. For that matter, Dunn may be traded too, and it is possible Wilkins also goes to Chicago.

 

Do you think it's possible Ravelo would get the call rather than Wilkins if Dunn goes? Or do you get the sense they want him to hit for more power in minors?

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QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 10:15 AM)
Do you think it's possible Ravelo would get the call rather than Wilkins if Dunn goes? Or do you get the sense they want him to hit for more power in minors?

I'd say it's pretty unlikely they call up Ravelo from AA. His power is increasing but still not where they'd want it (Nick Capra pointed to the need for more power from him recently), and he's 22 in AA. More likely they give Wilkins an audition in Chicago, though he's probably more auditioning for other teams than the Sox.

 

Stranger things have happened though.

 

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QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 11:15 AM)
Do you think it's possible Ravelo would get the call rather than Wilkins if Dunn goes? Or do you get the sense they want him to hit for more power in minors?

To tel you the truth, I'd rather see Dan Black on the South Side than Wilkins if possible, that kid has earned it with his time and numbers in the minors...not that Wilkins hasn't

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QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 10:24 AM)
To tel you the truth, I'd rather see Dan Black on the South Side than Wilkins if possible, that kid has earned it with his time and numbers in the minors...not that Wilkins hasn't

 

If going off prior success, Wilkins deserves it more than Black.

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2 things...how much of a prospect is Marin? and regardless of his control issues, does anyone else realize Andrew Mitchell has .199 AVG against him? That's fantastic, I knew he was a prospect coming outta TCU but how much of one is he know?

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 10:24 AM)
I'd say it's pretty unlikely they call up Ravelo from AA. His power is increasing but still not where they'd want it (Nick Capra pointed to the need for more power from him recently), and he's 22 in AA. More likely they give Wilkins an audition in Chicago, though he's probably more auditioning for other teams than the Sox.

 

Stranger things have happened though.

Any thoughts on Ravelo potentially to the corner outfield, under the "couldn't possibly be worse than Viciedo" clause

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QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 10:24 AM)
To tel you the truth, I'd rather see Dan Black on the South Side than Wilkins if possible, that kid has earned it with his time and numbers in the minors...not that Wilkins hasn't

I like Dan, and coming into the season, I said if he puts up AAA numbers like had at other levels, he did have a (slim) shot. But he hit a wall in AAA. Wilkins is far more deserving at this point, though neither are likely to be a long-term option.

 

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 10:55 AM)
2 things...how much of a prospect is Marin? and regardless of his control issues, does anyone else realize Andrew Mitchell has .199 ERA against him? That's fantastic, I knew he was a prospect coming outta TCU but how much of one is he know?

 

Marin is still a guy that may barely register on a T25 in the org, probably not even that. His cutter has helped him a lot, but he's still not got any pitches that stand out.

 

Mitchell's ERA is nice and all, but look at his walks. His control is horrifically bad.

 

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 11, 2014 -> 11:33 AM)
Any thoughts on Ravelo potentially to the corner outfield, under the "couldn't possibly be worse than Viciedo" clause

 

Lots of people asking this right now. He flopped defensively at 3B, and he's never played OF in his pro career, so I'd say such a move is unlikely. But not impossible. He does have some athleticism.

 

 

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