2015 MLB Draft

[caulfield12]

i can see how a hs prospect may be ideal, but with the possibility of hawkins future not panning out as expected. i think it will be college rt this draft. but pitcher or positional . i would love to hear the sox FO discussing this.

 

it is going to be a fun season.

 

 

There's at least a 50/50 chance that Tim Anderson ends up in the OF.

 

The hopes are higher for him going forward at this point than Hawkins.

[NorthSideSox72]

Did you see the catcher that I found for you Taylor Ward for Fresno State, I posted his stats so far this season on the last page.

 

I'm reading some reports now. I like some of what I see - good plate discipline, power. There may be better defenders.

 

Looks like names of college C's to watch right now include him, Jameson Fisher (SE Lou), Shaun Chase (ORE), Luke Lowery (ECU), Korey Dunbar (UNC). None of them appear to be guys who'd go in the first 4 rounds, so they are all possibilities.

 

 

There's at least a 50/50 chance that Tim Anderson ends up in the OF.

 

The hopes are higher for him going forward at this point than Hawkins.

Based on what?

[GGajewski18]

I'm reading some reports now. I like some of what I see - good plate discipline, power. There may be better defenders.

 

Looks like names of college C's to watch right now include him, Jameson Fisher (SE Lou), Shaun Chase (ORE), Luke Lowery (ECU), Korey Dunbar (UNC). None of them appear to be guys who'd go in the first 4 rounds, so they are all possibilities.

 

 

 

Based on what?

 

Definitely to keep some eyes on with these catchers. Ward is a junior, what are those other 4? If seniors then possibly go under slot also with them.

[southsider2k5]

It's an interesting thought for sure but I don't think it's one that White Sox front office would explore. I am afraid, and yes this is conjecture, that Jerry Reinsdorf's relationship with the commissioner's office is a constraint on the White Sox front office particularly in this avenue of procuring talent. I would be shocked if we saw the Sox circumnavigate the CBA and stomach those penalties, Plus, the Sox certainly value South American talent a lot less than most other teams around the league. I do think your general idea is an operable plan that could turn out to be incredibly beneficial with a new CBA looming, however, it doesn't seem like a move our team would make.

 

Just for fun and to delve into your idea a bit, the Sox ability to work with pitchers and keep them healthy makes this idea even more lucrative. If they forfeited the 2015 pick and lost Samardzija three first round pool allotments would be ridiculous. They could go under slot with a Hoffman/Fedde type and bring in another top 50 talent in the later rounds with the additional funds available. That would be an incredible draft to follow for a fan.

 

With the change in the front office, I wonder if this will continue to hold true. It honestly shocked me when we went over the spending cap, into the fine territory for the rule 4 draft.

[southsider2k5]

But in that same breath, the Sox didn't suffer any material penalty there. I believe they spent just under 5% more than their whole pool. Without going to Google, I'll round up and say they spent 5% more than their 9.5 million dollar pool. That's $475,000 + a 75 percent penalty ($356,250). So the Sox were penalized less than a season of a league minimum salary. They did this to sign the draft's top player that they had full rights to.

 

The Yankees and Red Sox, on the other hand, have taken on huge penalty hits of entirely material proportions to get the talent. Obviously both teams have excess discretionary income but as a result, they have rendered the current CBA as inadequate towards preserving a level playing field. The owners who oppose that type of behavior are headed by Reinsdorf and I doubt he would commit to a practice that he diametrically opposes.

 

This conversation does bring us back to the upcoming CBA. I do hope the MLB is ahead of the curve because I would hate to see the Sox get shafted by teams acting quickly and beating the system.

 

I also believe it is the largest rule 4 draft penalty, ever. No one has ever gone into lost draft pick territory, for sure.

 

Call it what you want, but it the first time they have done it. I also believe it is the first time they have gone over even the "suggestion" since Joe Borchard. Last year was different. Why? Who knows.

[LDF]

It's an interesting thought for sure but I don't think it's one that White Sox front office would explore. I am afraid, and yes this is conjecture, that Jerry Reinsdorf's relationship with the commissioner's office is a constraint on the White Sox front office particularly in this avenue of procuring talent. I would be shocked if we saw the Sox circumnavigate the CBA and stomach those penalties, Plus, the Sox certainly value South American talent a lot less than most other teams around the league. I do think your general idea is an operable plan that could turn out to be incredibly beneficial with a new CBA looming, however, it doesn't seem like a move our team would make.

 

Just for fun and to delve into your idea a bit, the Sox ability to work with pitchers and keep them healthy makes this idea even more lucrative. If they forfeited the 2015 pick and lost Samardzija three first round pool allotments would be ridiculous. They could go under slot with a Hoffman/Fedde type and bring in another top 50 talent in the later rounds with the additional funds available. That would be an incredible draft to follow for a fan.

 

with what Y2JImmy0 propose, ahhh that would be sweet. but like most said, the sox brass will not allow it. my thinking will be too close from the wilder thing ..... if i got the name right. the sox will need to show they are above all that. its the sox rep and in some way i admire them for that.

[GGajewski18]

with what Y2JImmy0 propose, ahhh that would be sweet. but like most said, the sox brass will not allow it. my thinking will be too close from the wilder thing ..... if i got the name right. the sox will need to show they are above all that. its the sox rep and in some way i admire them for that.

 

Like I've stated before, it would be nice if that did happen, but I believe like southsider said, it's better to get talent now rather than later.

 

I really think that getting a college arm/bat and drafting HS talent mixed in with some college seniors in rounds 4-10 would be our best bet.

[LDF]

Like I've stated before, it would be nice if that did happen, but I believe like southsider said, it's better to get talent now rather than later.

 

I really think that getting a college arm/bat and drafting HS talent mixed in with some college seniors in rounds 4-10 would be our best bet.

 

would you say, after july 2 or would it be the following yr would be an ideal time to do it, with ref to the int'l signing period. you know sign all the possible talent then?

 

but i am on board with that. however i think the sox brass will not allow that to happen. it would be sweet.

 

so with the draft. how would you pick the first round??

[LDF]

how high is anyone on Aikens - sp??

[GGajewski18]

would you say, after july 2 or would it be the following yr would be an ideal time to do it, with ref to the int'l signing period. you know sign all the possible talent then?

 

but i am on board with that. however i think the sox brass will not allow that to happen. it would be sweet.

 

so with the draft. how would you pick the first round??

 

College arm or bat. I like Fulmer, Mattuella, Bickford. Only bat worth considering is Happ.

 

By the way, Bickford's stats in CC are 2-1, 1.77 ERA, 20IP, 11H, 4ER, 6BB, 40Ks

 

how high is anyone on Aikens - sp??

 

I don't think Aiken falls to 8.

[LDF]

College arm or bat. I like Fulmer, Mattuella, Bickford. Only bat worth considering is Happ.

 

By the way, Bickford's stats in CC are 2-1, 1.77 ERA, 20IP, 11H, 4ER, 6BB, 40Ks

 

 

 

I don't think Aiken falls to 8.

i really like kirby.... but what is interesting is Bickford is dropping. man he really screwed the pooch in school this yr. what is the story on him??? that is 1 pick the may be a over slot signing.

 

i still am waiting for some more news of Mattuella arm. i really like Happ but there is another bat, a 3b did good in the cape last yr, but i can't remember his name.

 

i don't know why, i an leery on Aiken.

[southsider2k5]

If

 

I really believe the International Caps were set up with the full intention of them failing and turning into an international draft.

[GGajewski18]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2015-...hool-americans/

 

HS names to keep an eye on

[GGajewski18]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/135463/

 

More HS prospects to keep eye on.

[LDF]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/college/135463/

 

More HS prospects to keep eye on.

 

i like the idea of that hs'er who is hurt and miss the entire yr, i think that is what it said. keep his name around and see if he is there in the later rounds.

[southsideirish71]

The dores beat up on Illinois State today.

 

Fulmers line

6 IP, 2H, 0R 3 BB 11ks

Edited February 28, 2015 by southsideirish71

[daa84]

The dores beat up on Illinois State today.

 

Fulmers line

6 IP, 2H, 0R 3 BB 11ks

Did it mostly with the fastball. I didn't see a ton of it today, but the 3 innings I was able to watch closely fastball was 93-95 with tons of movement. Didn't have to use his secondary pitches as much - hung a few sliders.

[southsideirish71]

Did it mostly with the fastball. I didn't see a ton of it today, but the 3 innings I was able to watch closely fastball was 93-95 with tons of movement. Didn't have to use his secondary pitches as much - hung a few sliders.

 

Next week they get their first real challenge and he will get tested. UCLA, USC and TCU all on the docket next weekend in LA. Thats one hell of an early season test.

[GGajewski18]

Kevin Duchene made his first start for Illinois yesterday against Ball State following a suspension

 

7IP 5H 0ER 0BB 9Ks

[LDF]

Kevin Duchene made his first start for Illinois yesterday against Ball State following a suspension

 

7IP 5H 0ER 0BB 9Ks

 

anything from Phil Bickford or Haap??

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

Kevin Duchene made his first start for Illinois yesterday against Ball State following a suspension

 

7IP 5H 0ER 0BB 9Ks

 

He got lucky.

[LDF]

Kevin Duchene made his first start for Illinois yesterday against Ball State following a suspension

 

7IP 5H 0ER 0BB 9Ks

 

everytime i see that name, i keep on thinking i am reading something from hockey.

[LDF]

Phil Bickford, RHP, Southern Nevada (JUCO)

 

Bickford continues to put up silly numbers for the Coyotes as he struck out 13 over five shutout innings against Southern Idaho on February 19. He was hitting the mid-90s with his fastball and continues to show his plus command of his stuff. He now has 40 K/6 BB over 20.1 innings, allowing four runs on 11 hits. The 6’-3” right-hander is a likely first-round pick, and the continued development of his secondary stuff, as well as consistently maintaining the velocity, will determine just how high he will go.

 

Ian Happ, OF, Cincinnati

 

Happ’s calling card is his ability to hit a baseball. So far this season, he has done that pretty, pretty good. He went 10-for-14 over the weekend against Santa Clara and is now 17-for-30 (.567) on the season with four doubles, two home runs and three walks through seven games. The 6’-0”, 205 pound right-hander might be the best college hitter in the 2015 MLB draft and could benefit from a lack of premium bats this year.

 

 

 

from an aritcle of the top 10 college players week 2

 

3rd week match up college players.

 

as much as i really like Happ and Bickford being at the #8 slot for the sox to pick, that is if all the major prospects are selected. another name that is starting to pop up is Kyle Cody, RHP, Kentucky. so far as the mock draft are selecting, he is in the high teens. but if he continues to pitch as he has, he should move higher really fast. 6'7 fast ball that easily sit at 95+ mph and a slider. i wonder if he has a 3rd pitch.

 

i am really liking his makeup.

 

i know what the baseball experts thinks of this yr draft, but i am wondering if that will change come april or may.

[NorthSideSox72]

ahhh what could've been....

 

here was the 14th pick of the sox in the 2014 draft. the sox couldn't sign him but hoped, if Rodon didn't sign, maybe, just maybe they would sign him. players to watch for article.

 

Bryce Montes de Oca, RHP, Missouri

 

At 6’-8” and 265 pounds, the right-hander is quite the intimidating force on the mound, especially when he can run his fastball up to 98 mph. His curveball shows above-average, an 11-5 offering with tight spin. His change-up is still developing but shows promise, and he has worked hard on his mechanics since having Tommy John surgery after his sophomore season. He may have the most upside as anyone on this list and should be a big name in 2017.

 

beside Tucker and the pitchers i mention early. i am like this catcher more and more.

 

J.J. Schwarz, C, Florida

 

Schwarz led U18 Team USA with a .429 average, as well as nine RBI. He is more offense than defense and the 6’-1”, 195 pound right-hander has raw power and an advanced approach. The bloodlines are there too, as his dad is Jeff Schwarz, a former MLB pitcher and current minor league pitching coach for the Marlins. J.J. has good actions behind the plate and should be able to stick, and he has a great understanding of the game. He should be a leader for the Gators for the next three years and hit in the middle of the lineup.

 

 

Phil Bickford, RHP, Southern Nevada (JUCO)

 

Bickford continues to put up silly numbers for the Coyotes as he struck out 13 over five shutout innings against Southern Idaho on February 19. He was hitting the mid-90s with his fastball and continues to show his plus command of his stuff. He now has 40 K/6 BB over 20.1 innings, allowing four runs on 11 hits. The 6’-3” right-hander is a likely first-round pick, and the continued development of his secondary stuff, as well as consistently maintaining the velocity, will determine just how high he will go.

 

Ian Happ, OF, Cincinnati

 

Happ’s calling card is his ability to hit a baseball. So far this season, he has done that pretty, pretty good. He went 10-for-14 over the weekend against Santa Clara and is now 17-for-30 (.567) on the season with four doubles, two home runs and three walks through seven games. The 6’-0”, 205 pound right-hander might be the best college hitter in the 2015 MLB draft and could benefit from a lack of premium bats this year.

 

 

 

from an aritcle of the top 10 college players week 2

 

LDF - You need to cite quoted pieces. Link to the article would suffice, since you are just taking exerpts. But you need to source it in some way.

 

 

[LDF]

LDF - You need to cite quoted pieces. Link to the article would suffice, since you are just taking exerpts. But you need to source it in some way.

 

shiit i am sorry,i forgot. i will do that later and edit my post. i have to go to work.