2015 MLB Draft

[daa84]

This is a very important draft for us. The samardzija deal didn't kill us but did tap into our depth a bit. With our payroll near maxed, need to keep influxing young affordable players into the major league team

Edited December 10, 2014 by daa84

[Boopa1219]

This is a very important draft for us. The samardzija deal didn't kill us but did tap into our depth a bit. With our payroll near maxed, need to keep influxing young affordable players into the major league team

 

We also lost a second round pick.

[daa84]

We also lost a second round pick.

No reason to not go over projected slot on the 1st round pick, which the sox have been willing to do more recently

[Boopa1219]

No reason to not go over projected slot on the 1st round pick, which the sox have been willing to do more recently

 

I think that they lost the money tied to the second round pick, so their pool is smaller.

 

I have my fingers crossed that Brendon Rodgers falls to them.

[Y2Jimmy0]

I think that they lost the money tied to the second round pick, so their pool is smaller.

 

I have my fingers crossed that Brendon Rodgers falls to them.

 

 

I think they will go under slot in the 1st round actually. They lose the ability to spend that bonus $$ for the 2nd round selection. Probably somewhere around $1.5 million.

[Balta1701]

I think they will go under slot in the 1st round actually. They lose the ability to spend that bonus $$ for the 2nd round selection. Probably somewhere around $1.5 million.

This would be my guess also, if they grab a college senior who they can sign under slot in the first that means they can save a bit and go over slot somewhere in later rounds to make up for having no 2nd rounder.

[LDF]

This would be my guess also, if they grab a college senior who they can sign under slot in the first that means they can save a bit and go over slot somewhere in later rounds to make up for having no 2nd rounder.

 

that will be very interesting. put this draft in an all new light.

 

ummm, undeslot.... who??? maybe a pitcher, hs pitcher.

[LDF]

Going off of Jimmy's under slot idea, without knowing who the injured pitchers are going to be, I see the Sox as a prime candidate to draft the injured pitcher under slot a la Hoffman/Fedde/Giolito. It seems to be a great financial risk diversification process despite the looming the injury.

 

oh, another great idea. someone like Hoffman of the '15 class.

[Boopa1219]

Dan Hayes said that the team keeps the $1M associated with the second round pick.

[Y2Jimmy0]

Dan Hayes said that the team keeps the $1M associated with the second round pick.

 

 

Dan Hayes said that they can reallocate that $1 million elsewhere. It does come out of the draft pool though.

[Dunt]

I think they will go under slot in the 1st round actually. They lose the ability to spend that bonus $$ for the 2nd round selection. Probably somewhere around $1.5 million.

 

I hope that they get the best talent first. Sure, in theory it's nice to have that money later, but I want seriously impact talent with that first pick.

[Boopa1219]

Dan Hayes said that they can reallocate that $1 million elsewhere. It does come out of the draft pool though.

 

I knew that would come out of the draft pool, I just thought they would loose the $ associated with the pick since the pick was forfeited.

[Y2Jimmy0]

I knew that would come out of the draft pool, I just thought they would loose the $ associated with the pick since the pick was forfeited.

 

 

I think we are talking about the same thing. Lets pretend that the Sox 1st round pick is worth $3.2 million. Their 2nd round pick pool is $1 million and their bonus allotment is $6.5 million. The Sox gave up their 2nd round pick so now they don't have the 2nd rounder or the ability to spend that $1 million on the draft. Now they have $5.5 million to spend and no 2nd round pick. The White Sox include their draft spending in their overall budget though. They can't spend the $1 million on draft day but they can reallocate that figure into the ML payroll.

[Chisoxfn]

I've long said the Sox need to stop comingling developmental funds with major league contracts. It is just ludicrous. We need to set aside and investment good money into our farm system regardless of what is going on with major league club.

[Balta1701]

I've long said the Sox need to stop comingling developmental funds with major league contracts. It is just ludicrous. We need to set aside and investment good money into our farm system regardless of what is going on with major league club.

With the international and domestic spending limits in place now how does that make sense? They literally can't just go "over slot" and score a huge draft or go spend that $1 million overseas without penalties any more.

[Chisoxfn]

With the international and domestic spending limits in place now how does that make sense? They literally can't just go "over slot" and score a huge draft or go spend that $1 million overseas without penalties any more.

You can take a lot more draft picks that you throw that amount below $100K which doesn't count towards your overages (so while we aren't talking about going overslot on a guy in the 15th round with a 1st round value, you could go overslot on a significant number of guys in later rounds that might have been 5-12th round talent and convince them. As an ORG, we also have had situations where we haven't even spend to our international cap anyway (I believe we still have cushion in our budget right now).

[Boopa1219]

You can take a lot more draft picks that you throw that amount below $100K which doesn't count towards your overages (so while we aren't talking about going overslot on a guy in the 15th round with a 1st round value, you could go overslot on a significant number of guys in later rounds that might have been 5-12th round talent and convince them. As an ORG, we also have had situations where we haven't even spend to our international cap anyway (I believe we still have cushion in our budget right now).

 

I wanted the Sox to jump on Bryan Emery (16, 6'4, 200 L/L) but he signed with the Yankees. I know they still have a just short of a million shy of INTL spending as of July 2nd, but they could have used that money to sign more players under the radar.

[NorthSideSox72]

I wanted the Sox to jump on Bryan Emery (16, 6'4, 200 L/L) but he signed with the Yankees. I know they still have a just short of a million shy of INTL spending as of July 2nd, but they could have used that money to sign more players under the radar.

Well they still can. For that matter, we don't really know if they still have that much - we know that is the MOST they still have left, but there could be signings that were not published.

 

[southsider2k5]

I wanted the Sox to jump on Bryan Emery (16, 6'4, 200 L/L) but he signed with the Yankees. I know they still have a just short of a million shy of INTL spending as of July 2nd, but they could have used that money to sign more players under the radar.

 

Who? The entire top 30 is signed.

[Boopa1219]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/internation...ct-bryan-emery/

[Boopa1219]

I was thinking what would be the perfect draft scenario for the Sox. This is what I came up with:

 

The Sox draft Michael Matuella with the 8th overall pick. He projects to be a high upside starting pitcher with a fastball that tops out at 97mph and grade projects to be a 70 on the grading scale and three other plus pitches. He could be a fixture in the rotation or if that fails he could be a high upside reliever (If the Sox are making a playoff push, maybe he could join the bullpen and help the Sox out a la Brandon Finnegan.). Since he is a college player, maybe the Sox could sign him below slot. The Sox already have an extra $1 Million to spend.

 

In the third and fourth rounds the team will go overslot to sign some high upside high school talent like: OF Kyle Tucker, C Wyatt Cross, 3B Ryan Mountcastle, OF Mitchell Hansen, and P Nolan Watson.

 

That would be the perfect draft scenario.

 

Side note: I was also thinking about what the team's biggest organizational weakness is and it's pretty obivious, the Sox need to start developing impact bats across the diamond.

[GGajewski18]

I was thinking what would be the perfect draft scenario for the Sox. This is what I came up with:

 

The Sox draft Michael Matuella with the 8th overall pick. He projects to be a high upside starting pitcher with a fastball that tops out at 97mph and grade projects to be a 70 on the grading scale and three other plus pitches. He could be a fixture in the rotation or if that fails he could be a high upside reliever (If the Sox are making a playoff push, maybe he could join the bullpen and help the Sox out a la Brandon Finnegan.). Since he is a college player, maybe the Sox could sign him below slot. The Sox already have an extra $1 Million to spend.

 

In the third and fourth rounds the team will go overslot to sign some high upside high school talent like: OF Kyle Tucker, C Wyatt Cross, 3B Ryan Mountcastle, OF Mitchell Hansen, and P Nolan Watson.

 

That would be the perfect draft scenario.

 

Side note: I was also thinking about what the team's biggest organizational weakness is and it's pretty obivious, the Sox need to start developing impact bats across the diamond.

 

I'd love that if Manuela fell down to us, but barring a bad year, looks like he's a consensus top 3 pick.

[Ozzie Ball]

I was thinking what would be the perfect draft scenario for the Sox. This is what I came up with:

 

The Sox draft Michael Matuella with the 8th overall pick. He projects to be a high upside starting pitcher with a fastball that tops out at 97mph and grade projects to be a 70 on the grading scale and three other plus pitches. He could be a fixture in the rotation or if that fails he could be a high upside reliever (If the Sox are making a playoff push, maybe he could join the bullpen and help the Sox out a la Brandon Finnegan.). Since he is a college player, maybe the Sox could sign him below slot. The Sox already have an extra $1 Million to spend.

 

In the third and fourth rounds the team will go overslot to sign some high upside high school talent like: OF Kyle Tucker, C Wyatt Cross, 3B Ryan Mountcastle, OF Mitchell Hansen, and P Nolan Watson.

 

That would be the perfect draft scenario.

 

Side note: I was also thinking about what the team's biggest organizational weakness is and it's pretty obivious, the Sox need to start developing impact bats across the diamond.

I think you're dreaming a little too much here. Not only Matuella at 8, but also to sign him for $1m below slot. Barring injury or a complete loss of form and/or stuff, it's not going to happen.

 

[ChiSoxJon]

Hopefully we don't go wrong at pick 8, lotta guys I like in that top dozen or so: Matuella, Aiken, Buehler, Kirby, Funkhouser, Cameron, Swanson, Russell, Hooper, Fulmer, Bregman, Bickford

[Boopa1219]

I think you're dreaming a little too much here. Not only Matuella at 8, but also to sign him for $1m below slot. Barring injury or a complete loss of form and/or stuff, it's not going to happen.

 

There is not a big following on Matuella, he has a reputation on being injury prone and very streaky.