2015 MLB Draft

[LDF]

Minor League Madhouse has us taking Mantuella at 8 link

 

which is not a bad pick.

 

any updates on his arm??? didn't he missed a start b/c of something.

[Quin]

Minor League Madhouse has us taking Mantuella at 8 link

 

This would make me unbelievably happy.

 

Having Matuella in addition to Danish, Montas and Adams wold be fantastic depth.

[LDF]

This would make me unbelievably happy.

 

Having Matuella in addition to Danish, Montas and Adams wold be fantastic depth.

 

this yr draft, pitchers matuella, nathan and walter will be fast track pitchers to the majors as well.

[beautox]

This would make me unbelievably happy.

 

Having Matuella in addition to Danish, Montas and Adams wold be fantastic depth.

I'm on the Fulmer / Matuella hype train. Just need one of those 3 to pan out as a #3 and one as a nice BP piece to consider it a win anything more and its gravy. Adding another arm this year at 8 will be huge.

 

Its nice to dream on a rotation of

 

Sale

Montas/#8 pick

Quintana

Danish/Adams

Rodon

 

 

[LDF]

I'm on the Fulmer / Matuella hype train. Just need one of those 3 to pan out as a #3 and one as a nice BP piece to consider it a win anything more and its gravy. Adding another arm this year at 8 will be huge.

 

Its nice to dream on a rotation of

 

Sale

Montas/#8 pick

Quintana

Danish/Adams

Rodon

 

i am not too high on fulmer, his lack of a third pitch is a concern.

 

my wish list is Walker Buehler, Matuella and Nathan Kirby. not in this order.

 

but it is all good. there is still a long season before the draft takes place.

Edited February 23, 2015 by LDF

[NorthSideSox72]

Especially with the 2nd and 3rd round picks gone this year, it's key to get the BPA in the 1st and probably for the 4th/5th too.

 

But I would like to see the White Sox try to grab the best college catcher available starting around the 5th/6th round if they haven't grabbed one already. And another one sometime not too long after.

 

Normally, you don't start filling gaps at specific positions until much later in the draft, like perhaps starting in the teens. And normally I agree with that. However, I do think that catching is an exception, because it is nearly impossible to trade for it. There are just so few long-term successful catchers, and so few catching prospects out there that look worthwhile, that teams aren't trading them. And the White Sox have, IMO, a dire lack of catching talent depth across the organization right now. I want to see that addressed if at all possible.

 

So my question to this group is, who are the current college catchers at the top of people's draft boards?

 

[GGajewski18]

I'm on the Fulmer / Matuella hype train. Just need one of those 3 to pan out as a #3 and one as a nice BP piece to consider it a win anything more and its gravy. Adding another arm this year at 8 will be huge.

 

Its nice to dream on a rotation of

 

Sale

Samardzija

Quintana

Danish/Adams

Rodon

 

Fixed it for ya

 

Especially with the 2nd and 3rd round picks gone this year, it's key to get the BPA in the 1st and probably for the 4th/5th too.

 

But I would like to see the White Sox try to grab the best college catcher available starting around the 5th/6th round if they haven't grabbed one already. And another one sometime not too long after.

 

Normally, you don't start filling gaps at specific positions until much later in the draft, like perhaps starting in the teens. And normally I agree with that. However, I do think that catching is an exception, because it is nearly impossible to trade for it. There are just so few long-term successful catchers, and so few catching prospects out there that look worthwhile, that teams aren't trading them. And the White Sox have, IMO, a dire lack of catching talent depth across the organization right now. I want to see that addressed if at all possible.

 

So my question to this group is, who are the current college catchers at the top of people's draft boards?

 

Just looked up an article back from June of last year, it looks like the top C college prospect is Taylor Ward from Fresno State.

 

[Quin]

Especially with the 2nd and 3rd round picks gone this year, it's key to get the BPA in the 1st and probably for the 4th/5th too.

 

But I would like to see the White Sox try to grab the best college catcher available starting around the 5th/6th round if they haven't grabbed one already. And another one sometime not too long after.

 

Normally, you don't start filling gaps at specific positions until much later in the draft, like perhaps starting in the teens. And normally I agree with that. However, I do think that catching is an exception, because it is nearly impossible to trade for it. There are just so few long-term successful catchers, and so few catching prospects out there that look worthwhile, that teams aren't trading them. And the White Sox have, IMO, a dire lack of catching talent depth across the organization right now. I want to see that addressed if at all possible.

 

So my question to this group is, who are the current college catchers at the top of people's draft boards?

 

I'll look into some in a little bit later this week.

[GGajewski18]

C Taylor Ward so far this year.

 

.357 AVG, 4 doubles, 1 triple, 2 HRs, 10 RBIs in 7 games so far this year.

[Y2Jimmy0]

Especially with the 2nd and 3rd round picks gone this year, it's key to get the BPA in the 1st and probably for the 4th/5th too.

 

But I would like to see the White Sox try to grab the best college catcher available starting around the 5th/6th round if they haven't grabbed one already. And another one sometime not too long after.

 

Normally, you don't start filling gaps at specific positions until much later in the draft, like perhaps starting in the teens. And normally I agree with that. However, I do think that catching is an exception, because it is nearly impossible to trade for it. There are just so few long-term successful catchers, and so few catching prospects out there that look worthwhile, that teams aren't trading them. And the White Sox have, IMO, a dire lack of catching talent depth across the organization right now. I want to see that addressed if at all possible.

 

So my question to this group is, who are the current college catchers at the top of people's draft boards?

 

 

They can't really afford to do that though. They almost need to go under slot in round 1 because there just isn't much money in the pool. If they pay slot to the 1st pick, they only have like $1.5 million total for rounds 4-10. Lot of college seniors this year.

[Y2Jimmy0]

I have a question for the group to ponder. Would it beneficial to the White Sox to not be able to come to terms with their 1st rounder this year? It would only leave the team with picks in rounds 4-40 and the Sox would only have about $2 million to spend on the entire draft. My idea then would be to go nuts in International Spending this year. In this scenario, the White Sox would pick 9th next year and own their own 1st rounder. They may even have a third 1st rounder as compensation for Samardzija. The White Sox could have one of the biggest draft budgets ever by doing this. I know it would be tricky to pull this year and blatantly skirting the rules but it'd be an awesome strategy.

 

Add a little talent to system through draft this year.

Go nuts in International Market, spending way past the restriction and lose the ability for next year. (White Sox never do this)

But in 2016, could have potentially 3 first rounders with lots of $$ to maneuver and no budget in International market.

 

This would be awesome. Is this plan crazy?

[GGajewski18]

I have a question for the group to ponder. Would it beneficial to the White Sox to not be able to come to terms with their 1st rounder this year? It would only leave the team with picks in rounds 4-40 and the Sox would only have about $2 million to spend on the entire draft. My idea then would be to go nuts in International Spending this year. In this scenario, the White Sox would pick 9th next year and own their own 1st rounder. They may even have a third 1st rounder as compensation for Samardzija. The White Sox could have one of the biggest draft budgets ever by doing this. I know it would be tricky to pull this year and blatantly skirting the rules but it'd be an awesome strategy.

 

Add a little talent to system through draft this year.

Go nuts in International Market, spending way past the restriction and lose the ability for next year. (White Sox never do this)

But in 2016, could have potentially 3 first rounders with lots of $$ to maneuver and no budget in International market.

 

This would be awesome. Is this plan crazy?

 

Well first, I really hope we are able to extend Samardzija. Second, is the 2016 draft stronger than the 2015 draft? Depends who's available too, because if they really like a guy in 15 draft that is available at 8 then take him.

[Quin]

I have a question for the group to ponder. Would it beneficial to the White Sox to not be able to come to terms with their 1st rounder this year? It would only leave the team with picks in rounds 4-40 and the Sox would only have about $2 million to spend on the entire draft. My idea then would be to go nuts in International Spending this year. In this scenario, the White Sox would pick 9th next year and own their own 1st rounder. They may even have a third 1st rounder as compensation for Samardzija. The White Sox could have one of the biggest draft budgets ever by doing this. I know it would be tricky to pull this year and blatantly skirting the rules but it'd be an awesome strategy.

 

Add a little talent to system through draft this year.

Go nuts in International Market, spending way past the restriction and lose the ability for next year. (White Sox never do this)

But in 2016, could have potentially 3 first rounders with lots of $$ to maneuver and no budget in International market.

 

This would be awesome. Is this plan crazy?

 

While I see the logic, depends on the talent available.

 

If someone like Matuella is there, you'd be nuts to skip on him just to have a larger budget next year.

[witesoxfan]

I have a question for the group to ponder. Would it beneficial to the White Sox to not be able to come to terms with their 1st rounder this year? It would only leave the team with picks in rounds 4-40 and the Sox would only have about $2 million to spend on the entire draft. My idea then would be to go nuts in International Spending this year. In this scenario, the White Sox would pick 9th next year and own their own 1st rounder. They may even have a third 1st rounder as compensation for Samardzija. The White Sox could have one of the biggest draft budgets ever by doing this. I know it would be tricky to pull this year and blatantly skirting the rules but it'd be an awesome strategy.

 

Add a little talent to system through draft this year.

Go nuts in International Market, spending way past the restriction and lose the ability for next year. (White Sox never do this)

But in 2016, could have potentially 3 first rounders with lots of $$ to maneuver and no budget in International market.

 

This would be awesome. Is this plan crazy?

 

I believe so. Talent now is always going to be better than talent later.

[NorthSideSox72]

They can't really afford to do that though. They almost need to go under slot in round 1 because there just isn't much money in the pool. If they pay slot to the 1st pick, they only have like $1.5 million total for rounds 4-10. Lot of college seniors this year.

The Sox have enough for at least slot value on all the picks they have, so certainly they don't have to go under slot in the first round. In fact they could go over, if they go under here and there with rounds 4-10. They can also spend a little more than their slot totals (like they did last year) and pay the smallish penalty, but still stay under the draft pick loss level.

 

Also the good news is, if they lean college, they usually have less leverage.

 

[caulfield12]

I have a question for the group to ponder. Would it beneficial to the White Sox to not be able to come to terms with their 1st rounder this year? It would only leave the team with picks in rounds 4-40 and the Sox would only have about $2 million to spend on the entire draft. My idea then would be to go nuts in International Spending this year. In this scenario, the White Sox would pick 9th next year and own their own 1st rounder. They may even have a third 1st rounder as compensation for Samardzija. The White Sox could have one of the biggest draft budgets ever by doing this. I know it would be tricky to pull this year and blatantly skirting the rules but it'd be an awesome strategy.

 

Add a little talent to system through draft this year.

Go nuts in International Market, spending way past the restriction and lose the ability for next year. (White Sox never do this)

But in 2016, could have potentially 3 first rounders with lots of $$ to maneuver and no budget in International market.

 

This would be awesome. Is this plan crazy?

 

 

The problem is this doesn't fit well with the 2016-2018/19 window...until proven otherwise, the majority of their June draft spending will go back in the direction of collegiate pitchers, because of the tremendous expense of purchasing a rotation through free agency. There's just too many high-quality advanced pitchers available at that spot in the draft to pass up. The only reason would be taking a Hoffman/Fedde/Giolito type at 8, going underslot as much as possible and throwing 50% of the remaining money at another starter in the 4th round. That's dangerous, because you're putting almost all of your eggs in one basket (even though most drafts don't provide more than a couple of useful contributors).

 

Along with the collegiate pitchers, the focus on C and middle infield...with the knowledge that some of those middle infielders will also end up at 3B eventually.

 

Corner outfielders, DH/1B and relievers are always easier to find or acquire via trade.

 

Until that 2019 media rights money is available, huge overspending in the intl. market from the Sox would be a shocker.

Edited February 23, 2015 by caulfield12

[southsider2k5]

Especially with the 2nd and 3rd round picks gone this year, it's key to get the BPA in the 1st and probably for the 4th/5th too.

 

But I would like to see the White Sox try to grab the best college catcher available starting around the 5th/6th round if they haven't grabbed one already. And another one sometime not too long after.

 

Normally, you don't start filling gaps at specific positions until much later in the draft, like perhaps starting in the teens. And normally I agree with that. However, I do think that catching is an exception, because it is nearly impossible to trade for it. There are just so few long-term successful catchers, and so few catching prospects out there that look worthwhile, that teams aren't trading them. And the White Sox have, IMO, a dire lack of catching talent depth across the organization right now. I want to see that addressed if at all possible.

 

So my question to this group is, who are the current college catchers at the top of people's draft boards?

 

Their draft board will also make going overslot much harder. They have way fewer picks to make those dollars up in.

[NorthSideSox72]

Their draft board will also make going overslot much harder. They have way fewer picks to make those dollars up in.

I wasn't necessarily advocating going overslot. Just looking at leaning towards a certain position. Maybe slightly over if that is what it takes.

 

[LDF]

 

this draft is gong to be tough to figure out in drafting.

 

do the sox go for a sp to help the major league rotation in a couple yrs, do they go for a positional player or catcher.

 

i think, imo, b/c the sox do not have 2 or 3 or 4 rounder, they may go for the best sp .

 

[GGajewski18]

I wasn't necessarily advocating going overslot. Just looking at leaning towards a certain position. Maybe slightly over if that is what it takes.

 

Did you see the catcher that I found for you Taylor Ward for Fresno State, I posted his stats so far this season on the last page.

[GGajewski18]

this draft is gong to be tough to figure out in drafting.

 

do the sox go for a sp to help the major league rotation in a couple yrs, do they go for a positional player or catcher.

 

i think, imo, b/c the sox do not have 2 or 3 or 4 rounder, they may go for the best sp .

 

You know doubt go best available college pitcher in my opinion. Then take some chances on some HS talent in rounds 4-10.

[LDF]

You know doubt go best available college pitcher in my opinion. Then take some chances on some HS talent in rounds 4-10.

 

i can see how a hs prospect may be ideal, but with the possibility of hawkins future not panning out as expected. i think it will be college rt this draft. but pitcher or positional . i would love to hear the sox FO discussing this.

 

it is going to be a fun season.

[southsider2k5]

I wasn't necessarily advocating going overslot. Just looking at leaning towards a certain position. Maybe slightly over if that is what it takes.

 

Depending on what the picks in front of us look like, I see a better chance of us going underslot, and trying to use that to make up for the picks we don't have later in the draft.

 

[GGajewski18]

i can see how a hs prospect may be ideal, but with the possibility of hawkins future not panning out as expected. i think it will be college rt this draft. but pitcher or positional . i would love to hear the sox FO discussing this.

 

it is going to be a fun season.

 

Difference is Hawkins was a 1st round pick. Im talking about taking a college arm or bat, preferably arm at 8, go under slot, and then have the savings to address the later rounds with HS talent kind of like what the Cubs did last year.

 

If you can land a couple of Michaelczewski's in the later rounds, that's perfect.

 

Depending on what the picks in front of us look like, I see a better chance of us going underslot, and trying to use that to make up for the picks we don't have later in the draft.

 

I agree 100%

[LDF]

Depending on what the picks in front of us look like, I see a better chance of us going underslot, and trying to use that to make up for the picks we don't have later in the draft.

 

i think it will be based on who is avail at the time at #8. going underslot will help in signing those prospects who dropped, b/c of signability.