Dunt Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I will be happy with any of the following: Swanson Fulmer Happ Jay Bregman Really want Swanson or Fulmer tho, but imagine both will be gone. In that case, take Happ. Advanced bat that could move quickly and slot in at corner OF or second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 this is me, i really am having a hard time using a high first rounder on a pitcher who may be a rp or is a rp. the org need impact players, whether they be sp or positional players. this org has a hole in 3b, also maybe in ss, and i am meaning hitting and defence. anderson is the sox ss of the future, but that does not mean they can stop addressing that positions. yeah, the sox sign several int'l players who can play ss, but what are they 5-6 yrs away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 16, 2015 -> 03:49 PM) I think he has an article coming out in the next few days, but Kiley McDaniel has said a few times he's heard teams in the 6-10 range of this draft are planning on cost-saving deals with their first pick (ie: Cubs last year with Schwarber). Thats where I think Matuella could be a fit, or DJ Stewart as I have mentioned a couple times in thread. The Sox will not draft Matuella if he wants full slot value, but if they can get a discount and roll that money into some high school kids later in the draft it could make sense. I think it will almost definitely be a college player at number 8 as they are likely to roll the dice on some high school kids in rounds four and five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Apr 20, 2015 -> 01:13 PM) Thats where I think Matuella could be a fit, or DJ Stewart as I have mentioned a couple times in thread. The Sox will not draft Matuella if he wants full slot value, but if they can get a discount and roll that money into some high school kids later in the draft it could make sense. I think it will almost definitely be a college player at number 8 as they are likely to roll the dice on some high school kids in rounds four and five. The Sox not having 2nd and 3rd round picks + Matuella and Aiken's stock dropping make me think they'd be more interested, especially if Coop and Herm approved. High upside talent that can likely be signed underslot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Apr 20, 2015 -> 06:19 PM) The Sox not having 2nd and 3rd round picks + Matuella and Aiken's stock dropping make me think they'd be more interested, especially if Coop and Herm approved. High upside talent that can likely be signed underslot. i think that is the key and how the sox FO will address the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I would draft Kyle Tucker at #8 overall and have him be my LF of the future. I think he's going to be a guy that's hits for .290 while hitting 25 homers and driving in 95 rbi a year from the left side of the plate. And he projects as a plus defender in the outfield. Can you imagine an outfield featuring him and Micker together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 20, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) I would draft Kyle Tucker at #8 overall and have him be my LF of the future. I think he's going to be a guy that's hits for .290 while hitting 25 homers and driving in 95 rbi a year from the left side of the plate. And he projects as a plus defender in the outfield. Can you imagine an outfield featuring him and Micker together? The rate this season is going, I can imagine them playing for the Havana White Sox by that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 20, 2015 -> 02:16 PM) I would draft Kyle Tucker at #8 overall and have him be my LF of the future. I think he's going to be a guy that's hits for .290 while hitting 25 homers and driving in 95 rbi a year from the left side of the plate. And he projects as a plus defender in the outfield. Can you imagine an outfield featuring him and Micker together? A LF who hits .290 with 25 HR and plus defense in the OF? That's an All Star level player. Heck that's a guy who could get MVP votes if he does even a little better than that. That's an insane projection. I mean I hope he does, but sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 20, 2015 -> 10:13 PM) A LF who hits .290 with 25 HR and plus defense in the OF? That's an All Star level player. Heck that's a guy who could get MVP votes if he does even a little better than that. That's an insane projection. I mean I hope he does, but sheesh. yeah that is some lofty numbers, but this is a big IF he develops as expected, he can do it. but that is alot to put on a teenager going to be 18-19 yrs old. also look at how Hawkins took a hiccup and may not developed as org hope. but dang, look at the bloodline, his brother preston playing, for i think Hou. at the beginning of this college season, i was envisioning hawkins, mickler and tucker. of course this is 4-5 yrs down the road. however the sox need a little help in the near future and this draft can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 .@UVABaseball announced the injury to LHP Nathan Kirby is a strained lat muscle. That's good news considering the alternative per tweet. https://twitter.com/KendallRogersD1/status/...244979895263232 good, no arm injury, no shoulder injury, no surgery. the problem is this doesn't help out the sox in defining the the top 7 selections in the upcoming draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 an FYI on the draft slot value. i don't know if this been posted or not. http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2015-mlb-draft-slots/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 20, 2015 -> 04:13 PM) A LF who hits .290 with 25 HR and plus defense in the OF? That's an All Star level player. Heck that's a guy who could get MVP votes if he does even a little better than that. That's an insane projection. I mean I hope he does, but sheesh. You are absolutely correct, at reddit when we did our reports on players, we wrote our projections under the assumption that everything pans out for that player and that's what I wrote for Kyle Tucker. That's what I wrote when I 'scouted' him and that's what I'm sticking to. Edited April 21, 2015 by Joshua Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 http://minorleaguemadhouse.com/2015/04/21/...-april-edition/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 20, 2015 -> 08:05 PM) You are absolutely correct, at reddit when we did our reports on players, we wrote our projections under the assumption that everything pans out for that player and that's what I wrote for Kyle Tucker. That's what I wrote when I 'scouted' him and that's what I'm sticking to. I don't think the Sox are going to go high school bat in the first round without second and third round picks as they don't have a way to back up the pick with a higher floor player. I think if the Sox are going to sign Reyes, they have enough depth in the system at OF not to go after Tucker who will cost probably most if not all of your slot at that pick. The Sox are going to need to be creative to add as much high level talent as possible in the draft, going all in on a first round pick is not a good path to success. Tucker likely is gone by the Astros at #5 anyway so the point is pretty moot. Judging on buzz thus far: 1. Arizona - Brendan Rogers 2. Houston - Dillon Tate 3. Colorado - Carson Fulmer 4. Texas - Chad Smith 5. Houston - Kyle Tucker 6. Minnesota - ? Mike Nikorak 7. Boston - Alex Bregman 8. SOX - ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Apr 21, 2015 -> 01:25 PM) I don't think the Sox are going to go high school bat in the first round without second and third round picks as they don't have a way to back up the pick with a higher floor player. I think if the Sox are going to sign Reyes, they have enough depth in the system at OF not to go after Tucker who will cost probably most if not all of your slot at that pick. The Sox are going to need to be creative to add as much high level talent as possible in the draft, going all in on a first round pick is not a good path to success. Tucker likely is gone by the Astros at #5 anyway so the point is pretty moot. Judging on buzz thus far: 1. Arizona - Brendan Rogers 2. Houston - Dillon Tate 3. Colorado - Carson Fulmer 4. Texas - Chad Smith 5. Houston - Kyle Tucker 6. Minnesota - ? Mike Nikorak 7. Boston - Alex Bregman 8. SOX - ? Reyes is not a outfielder in the majors, he'll be playing first base in majors. I believe Kiley McDaniel reports and you can pretty much chalk up Reyes to the White Sox as a done deal. Once it is officially announced by the club on July 2nd, I am going to start think of him as the first baseman of the future and as Abreu's potential, long term replacement. And you said that the Sox are going to want to save money with their pick, thats the whole Houston Astros m.o., they save as much money as they can in regards to amateur talent and spread their resources around. That probably rules out Tucker for them as well. I see that they are mocked to Tate, who is a college player in this draft, but I can see Tate getting every penny that he is entitled to and not signing below slot. Edited April 21, 2015 by Joshua Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 21, 2015 -> 02:27 PM) Reyes is not a outfielder in the majors, he'll be playing first base in majors. I believe Kiley McDaniel reports and you can pretty much chalk up Reyes to the White Sox as a done deal. Once it is officially announced by the club on July 2nd, I am going to start think of him as the first baseman of the future and as Abreu's potential, long term replacement. And you said that the Sox are going to want to save money with their pick, thats the whole Houston Astros m.o., they save as much money as they can in regards to amateur talent and spread their resources around. That probably rules out Tucker for them as well. I see that they are mocked to Tate, who is a college player in this draft, but I can see Tate getting every penny that he is entitled to and not signing below slot. That has been the Astros way, but they also have not picked lower than 1 since they have employed that model. They did trade for an extra comp pick to add to their bonus pool so I could see them getting both of these guys for about 80% of slot value and then going really cheap in the comp round to spread those savings out later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 20, 2015 -> 07:05 PM) You are absolutely correct, at reddit when we did our reports on players, we wrote our projections under the assumption that everything pans out for that player and that's what I wrote for Kyle Tucker. That's what I wrote when I 'scouted' him and that's what I'm sticking to. Sounds a lot like Heyward but with a prettier swing, less K's/erratic offensive performance and maybe a notch or two below defensively. Something in between Heyward and Alex Gordon would be nice, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) this is a great topic today, i came back and want to my thoughts. i am going to use this mock and add to it. 1. Arizona - Brendan Rogers >>> i agree 2. Houston - Dillon Tate >>> Swanson or Tate 3. Colorado - Carson Fulmer >>> Tate or Fulmer 4. Texas - Chad Smith >>> Kirby or Fulmer or Buehler 5. Houston - Kyle Tucker >>> Tucker 6. Minnesota - ? Mike Nikorak >>> Kirby or Funkhouser 7. Boston - Alex Bregman >>> Nikorak or Funkhouser or Bergman 8, Sox >>>>> i still see Happ or Kirby, if not over slot with Newman. still will need to address the idea of a 3b backup. Edited April 22, 2015 by LDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 if the key players are not there at #8, and the sox wanted to go overslot, who would you pick?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 22, 2015 -> 10:44 AM) if the key players are not there at #8, and the sox wanted to go overslot, who would you pick?? Missing picks at #2 and #3, it is going to be extremely difficult to go overslot at #8. Plus all of the pitching injuries are making this draft a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 22, 2015 -> 05:22 PM) Missing picks at #2 and #3, it is going to be extremely difficult to go overslot at #8. Plus all of the pitching injuries are making this draft a mess. exactly, but the problem lies on who is there. nice point btw, so Hahn and his people will prob be having many different scenario, asking the most important question at the time, what if, this player is not there and these players are selected already. i love this brain wrecking scene. it going to be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Here is Keith Law's top 50 for the draft. You need insider to read it: http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/keith-law/...er/post?id=3876 He also has another piece where he mentions White Sox linked to Buehler, Funkhouser, and Nikorak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 interesting revamp mock. this mock doesn't have the teams listed, but players listed. i find that the list is interesting with players updates. http://www.drafttotheshow.com/the-mock/ JS posted the minor league and that list has the players updated as well, but, i don't agree with the #8 selection http://minorleaguemadhouse.com/2015/04/21/...-april-edition/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 22, 2015 -> 02:08 PM) Here is Keith Law's top 50 for the draft. You need insider to read it: http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/keith-law/...er/post?id=3876 He also has another piece where he mentions White Sox linked to Buehler, Funkhouser, and Nikorak. Heres the list: Brendan Rogers Kevin Newman Dansby Swanson Dillon Tate Kolby Allard Ian Happ Alex Bregman Walker Buehler Kyle Funkhouser Mike Nikorak Daz Cameron Nick Plummer Trenton Clark Kyle Tucker Michael Matuella Kep Brown Donnie Everett Nate Kirby Garret Whitley Cody Ponce Drew Finley Jon Harris Ke’Bryan Hayes Brady Aiken James Kaprielian Juan Hillman Jalen Miller Kyler Murray Jacob Nix Tristan Beck Mitchell Hansen Cornelius Randolph Phil Bickford Chad Smith Alonzo Jones Ashe Russell Joe McCarthy Tyler Jay Jacob Woodford Richie Martin Chris Betts Carson Fulmer Triston McKenzie Nick Neidert Beau Burrows Justin Hooper Scott Kingery Blake Trahan Jahami Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 22, 2015 -> 08:06 PM) Heres the list: Brendan Rogers Kevin Newman Dansby Swanson Dillon Tate Kolby Allard Ian Happ Alex Bregman Walker Buehler Kyle Funkhouser Mike Nikorak Daz Cameron Nick Plummer Trenton Clark Kyle Tucker Michael Matuella Kep Brown Donnie Everett Nate Kirby Garret Whitley Cody Ponce Drew Finley Jon Harris Ke’Bryan Hayes Brady Aiken James Kaprielian Juan Hillman Jalen Miller Kyler Murray Jacob Nix Tristan Beck Mitchell Hansen Cornelius Randolph Phil Bickford Chad Smith Alonzo Jones Ashe Russell Joe McCarthy Tyler Jay Jacob Woodford Richie Martin Chris Betts Carson Fulmer Triston McKenzie Nick Neidert Beau Burrows Justin Hooper Scott Kingery Blake Trahan Jahami Jones jeeze.... r u serious newman at #2???? i know that Happ and Newman have the best hit tools for college players entering the draft, but to rise and be selected at #2?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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