LDF Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 13, 2015 -> 04:23 PM) In terms of catching prospects, what about Illinois catcher Jason Goldstein? He's listed at 6 foot 210 pounds and is catching one of the best pitching staffs in the nation. He's hitting .302 8 HRS 41 RBIs but does have 7 errors... i have been looking into him in the last 2 weeks. that was when many were writing about Jay and the team. i wanted to see who else on the team that might slide into the later rounds. his hit to K's ratio's are not that bad. i can live with a weak avg cat if he can produce in other ways. nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 From the Keith Law chat today: Jack (Chicago) Tyler Jay the White Sox guy if he's still there when they pick? Does he have #1 type potential or more of a 2 or 3? Thanks Keith! Klaw (1:12 PM) I've heard he's on their short list, whatever that means. I think he could be a 2. Had he pitched in the Illini rotation all year, he might have gone in the top 5 for slot, which would be $1 million-plus over what he's going to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ May 12, 2015 -> 04:25 PM) BPA is not a myth. BPA does not equal consensus number 1's Harper/Strasburg. Kyle Schwarber was not the top guy on the board by most all accounts last year when the Cubs took him, but he was the best mix of all factors. That doesn't mean he was the consensus BPA, he was their BPA through a mix of the factors you listed and more. Talent, polish, signability, risk as a player, risk in injury, floor, ceiling, tools, etc. are all evaluated to make a BPA. It all depends how each organization values each of the things above. The BPA argument is rooted from the idea that you don't take a specific position because it is an organizational weakness but instead, take the player that provides the most value at that time regardless of position or need. One of the best post that I have ever read on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 13, 2015 -> 11:23 AM) In terms of catching prospects, what about Illinois catcher Jason Goldstein? He's listed at 6 foot 210 pounds and is catching one of the best pitching staffs in the nation. He's hitting .302 8 HRS 41 RBIs but does have 7 errors... Here is a name.... Chris Cullen. He is a prep catcher from the state of Georgia. He is 6'5 200lbs and he bats and throws from the right side. His swing kid of reminds me of Jeff Bagwell. Here is an report by Matt Garroich from MinorLeagueBall.com : "Chris Cullen is a tall, 6'5", 200 LB catcher, so that tall of a guy isn't overly likely to stick but he has the tools to. He has a strong arm and is agile behind the plate but he's 6'5". Offensively, he has long levers and really gets into the ball when he hits it. He has a lot of offensive potential if it works out. Oddly enough, he's committed to South Carolina who just ran through a similar guy in Grayson Greiner. I'm usually not in favor of players going to school but he seems like a guy who could really do well in college. He may be a corner OF or a 1B down the line but the swing looks like he'll generate enough power to make that work if he needs to." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ May 13, 2015 -> 10:44 PM) Thanks. The best compliment I have ever got on this site. The circle is now complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ May 13, 2015 -> 06:57 PM) Here is a name.... Chris Cullen. He is a prep catcher from the state of Georgia. He is 6'5 200lbs and he bats and throws from the right side. His swing kid of reminds me of Jeff Bagwell. Here is an report by Matt Garroich from MinorLeagueBall.com : "Chris Cullen is a tall, 6'5", 200 LB catcher, so that tall of a guy isn't overly likely to stick but he has the tools to. He has a strong arm and is agile behind the plate but he's 6'5". Offensively, he has long levers and really gets into the ball when he hits it. He has a lot of offensive potential if it works out. Oddly enough, he's committed to South Carolina who just ran through a similar guy in Grayson Greiner. I'm usually not in favor of players going to school but he seems like a guy who could really do well in college. He may be a corner OF or a 1B down the line but the swing looks like he'll generate enough power to make that work if he needs to." I'm not overly concerned about 6'5" at catcher. Flowers is 6'4", Kevan Smith is also 6'4". If he has the athleticism then I don't see that extra inch as a major factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 not an overly fan of this draft. if anything just reading material on how others see the prospects. http://www.thesportsbank.net/basewars-chic...mlb-mock-draft/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Someone who has a good approach to hitting and can hit, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 2 LHP from SEMO will probably get drafted next month both are juniors having great years. Joey Lucchesi who transferred from a JC in California this year who has a 3.01 ERA with over 80 Ks (Leading the conference). He is pitching right now against Belmont Alex Winkelmann who has been with the team all 3 years has a 3.69 ERA and exactly 80 Ks (2nd in the conference) Guys we should look after the 10th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I don't know what thread we are supposed to put this talk in now, but I'll just randomly choose this one I guess... Carson Fulmer's final start of the regular season before the draft went pretty well.... CG, 2 H, 1 R, 14 K. He allowed 2 hits in the 1st inning....and no hits after that. I think he secured himself as the NCAA strikeout king. 132 Ks in 95 IP. No one has put up 132 or more Ks in 14 starts or less since Marcus Stroman in 2012. A 12.42 K/9, which hasn't been seen since........Carlos Rodon in 2013 when he had a 12.51 K/9. Not bad company for Mr. Fulmer. Kylie McDaniel thinks he's a no-brainer top 10 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ May 15, 2015 -> 07:55 AM) I don't know what thread we are supposed to put this talk in now, but I'll just randomly choose this one I guess... Carson Fulmer's final start of the regular season before the draft went pretty well.... CG, 2 H, 1 R, 14 K. He allowed 2 hits in the 1st inning....and no hits after that. I think he secured himself as the NCAA strikeout king. 132 Ks in 95 IP. No one has put up 132 or more Ks in 14 starts or less since Marcus Stroman in 2012. A 12.42 K/9, which hasn't been seen since........Carlos Rodon in 2013 when he had a 12.51 K/9. Not bad company for Mr. Fulmer. Kylie McDaniel thinks he's a no-brainer top 10 pick. i am going to be honest here, i am so all over with trying to figure out if he can make the transition to mlb. i am not convince on that point. i should narrow my opinion further, he has talent, that is for sure, but as a sp in the majors? then i am looking for the needs of the team, 3b cat. this idea of continuing to build the pen with arm is great, but that still does not guarantee that the team the sox are trading with, see the player in the same way as the sox. the sox may even loose on this front, b/c the other teams knows the sox maybe a little desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ May 15, 2015 -> 12:27 PM) i am going to be honest here, i am so all over with trying to figure out if he can make the transition to mlb. i am not convince on that point. i should narrow my opinion further, he has talent, that is for sure, but as a sp in the majors? then i am looking for the needs of the team, 3b cat. this idea of continuing to build the pen with arm is great, but that still does not guarantee that the team the sox are trading with, see the player in the same way as the sox. the sox may even loose on this front, b/c the other teams knows the sox maybe a little desperate. for those who follows the draft, if any, beside saying the BPA, what are your thoughts on this draft with the sox at 8. who will be the pick??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ May 15, 2015 -> 08:23 AM) for those who follows the draft, if any, beside saying the BPA, what are your thoughts on this draft with the sox at 8. who will be the pick??? College pitcher. Jay, Funkhouser, Fulmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 15, 2015 -> 08:27 AM) College pitcher. Jay, Funkhouser, Fulmer. I agree here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Been reading that Tyler Stephenson is moving up on alot of boards. Any chance that the sox take him at #8? I'd still like to see them take BPA as in Funkhouser/Jay/Fullmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 QUOTE (staxx @ May 15, 2015 -> 08:47 AM) Been reading that Tyler Stephenson is moving up on alot of boards. Any chance that the sox take him at #8? I'd still like to see them take BPA as in Funkhouser/Jay/Fullmer Honestly, I doubt they take a prep catcher at 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 QUOTE (staxx @ May 15, 2015 -> 01:47 PM) Been reading that Tyler Stephenson is moving up on alot of boards. Any chance that the sox take him at #8? I'd still like to see them take BPA as in Funkhouser/Jay/Fullmer while that is a daring and bold move, and it will address the catching position. here is a question to think about. how long will it take for him to develop to move up??? the sox needs their pick to be challenging for a position in at least 2 yrs. the sox have or will have glaring holes in a yr or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Just to inform all the draftniks in here... the draft is by far the biggest thing we do at FutureSox each year (in terms of the amount of content, time invested, and traffic to the blog). And we're getting geared up right now! First pre-draft pieces will start showing up next week, and we'll probably have somewhere around 7-8 different articles from at least three different writers. So stay tuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Can't link it, but BA changed their mock selection to T. Jay also today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 i can't wait to see the articles. it is going to be great to add to other info concerning prospects coming into the systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Benitendi has some crazy stats. He's surpassed Happ as the best college bat available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2015 -> 09:26 PM) Benitendi has some crazy stats. He's surpassed Happ as the best college bat available. re Happ, just like DJ Stewart. the pitchers weren't pitching to him, and i think he started to press, there was talk that he is letting the pressure of the draft affect his approach. too bad, i had him in my preseason fav's. also, i really am not that much of a fan of Bentendi, for starters i really hope he grows. he is like 5'9 a generous 5.10. Edited May 15, 2015 by LDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2015 -> 04:26 PM) Benitendi has some crazy stats. He's surpassed Happ as the best college bat available. Apparently, he is a legit CF, too. I just always take college HRs with a grain of salt. After all, Beckham hit 28 HRs his junior year. But looks like a great combination of power-speed and strong eye at the plate. Plus the ability to play CF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) here is the link for hrs in the ncaa... i still like D. Dewees. he is 2 behind. his overall hitting across the board is really nice. http://www.ncaa.com/stats/baseball/d1/current/individual/470 Edited May 15, 2015 by LDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 QUOTE (staxx @ May 15, 2015 -> 08:47 AM) Been reading that Tyler Stephenson is moving up on alot of boards. Any chance that the sox take him at #8? I would be very pleased with this were the pick, you can have catch but if the bat is really something he can go to the OF or 1B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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