fathom Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 QUOTE (DirtySox @ May 29, 2015 -> 05:57 PM) I do like Tate as well. Stock has fallen a bit, but he was looking like the number 1 pick earlier this year. To me, it's not shocking he faded down the stretch. He wasn't stretched out coming into the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Tate would be a great get. Easily the guy I would be most excited about falling to the sox pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ May 29, 2015 -> 11:26 AM) Tate to Sox in latest BA mock http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mlb-m...15-version-4-0/ If Tate is available I would all aboard that train. I think I'd take Fulmer over him, but that'd be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 29, 2015 -> 12:05 PM) If Tate is available I would all aboard that train. I think I'd take Fulmer over him, but that'd be it. Agreed. Fulmer, Jay, and Tate, I would be fine with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 29, 2015 -> 10:05 AM) If Tate is available I would all aboard that train. I think I'd take Fulmer over him, but that'd be it. Tate would be my #1. He has good size, velocity, two plus pitches and athleticism without some of the concerns over Jay / Fullmer. Basically Tate has proven he can become a starter (after pitching out of pen past two seasons) and still maintained his velocity, etc, until past few weeks where he has tired out (which is to be expected and something I hope Sox are all over and are prepared to give him rest). Fullmer has more concerns over his mechanics, etc and Jay is nice but again, we don't know how his velocity will maintain as a starter, etc. Tate would be such a good value get at the 8 spot. Jay might have higher upside then Tate though (more polish around his secondary stuff). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Ben Badler @BenBadler 54m54 minutes ago New Baseball America draft from @johnmanuelba, with the 3 players the D-Backs are considering with the No. 1 pick: http://bit.ly/1RvezFJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Does Tate's delivery remind anyone else of Dontrelle Willis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 https://twitter.com/jimcallisMLB/status/604356216999911424 First draft note I've looked at this year. No idea who these guys are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ May 29, 2015 -> 01:41 PM) https://twitter.com/jimcallisMLB/status/604356216999911424 First draft note I've looked at this year. No idea who these guys are. Tyler Jay, LHP from U of I. Mainly used out of the bullpen, but has 2 plus pitches right now in the fb and slider while his change is getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3GamesToLove Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Well, you can watch basically all of these guys this weekend, and specifically tonight. Have to think U of I will use Jay. Fulmer, Tate both starting. Good SBN write-up below. http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2015/5/27/8670...9345.1432934291 All of the games are on ESPN3, plus ESPNU has "Bases Loaded" whiparound coverage all day and weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Tate getting crushed tonight in his start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ May 29, 2015 -> 08:52 PM) Tate getting crushed tonight in his start That's good for our chances at getting him at least...if he's the new target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 30, 2015 -> 04:03 AM) That's good for our chances at getting him at least...if he's the new target. I'd rather have Fulmer I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Anybody know if Scott Boras is the agent to be for any of the top picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Tate rebounded from a slow start to have a very good game. Both him and Fulmer pitched well tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ May 30, 2015 -> 03:47 AM) Anybody know if Scott Boras is the agent to be for any of the top picks? i was waiting to see the draft time. they the prospects will let anyone know who their advisers are. but that is a great question, at least for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Tate 8IP 6H 4ER 1BB 11K Pretty darn good considering he gave up three runs in the first two innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) My top five currently is: Fulmer, Tate, Jay, Benintendi and Stephenson. Based on what I am reading from the guys in the know (McDaniel, Callis, Manuel), any of those five could be available for the Sox. So many unknowns this year. Last year, it was certain who was going in the top three (Kolek, Rodon and Aiken), the order was just up in the air. This year, no one knows. But let's just hope the Sox have done their research on the top 8 players in the Draft in their mind and then the highest rated player left. Edited May 30, 2015 by maggsmaggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 With a top 10 pick and slot to burn and only 8 picks in the first 10 rounds, look for Chicago to take a safe RHP at 8 and follow him up with overslot picks in the later rounds, similar to Montes De Oca last year My Final Mock for next week: 1.8. Walker Buehler, RHP, Vandy 4.112. Rhett Wiseman, LF, Vandy 5.142. Grayson Long, RHP, TAMU 6.172. Tyler Ferguson, RHP, Vandy Late round fliers: Jamies Winston, RHP, FSU Octavio Arroyo, RHP, CA-HS We need a C with a bat already too, but not realstic for us to pick one early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ May 30, 2015 -> 05:48 PM) With a top 10 pick and slot to burn and only 8 picks in the first 10 rounds, look for Chicago to take a safe RHP at 8 and follow him up with overslot picks in the later rounds, similar to Montes De Oca last year My Final Mock for next week: 1.8. Walker Buehler, RHP, Vandy 4.112. Rhett Wiseman, LF, Vandy 5.142. Grayson Long, RHP, TAMU 6.172. Tyler Ferguson, RHP, Vandy Late round fliers: Jamies Winston, RHP, FSU Octavio Arroyo, RHP, CA-HS We need a C with a bat already too, but not realstic for us to pick one early with the 4 rounder and later, i would really think about infielders and catcher position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 1. Hitter 2. No Fulmer 3. No bullpen pitchers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ May 30, 2015 -> 09:01 PM) Sox have scouted Tate at the beginning of the year and he was throwing in the mid 90's deep into the game. Much like Jay, Tate was used exclusively out of the pen in his first two college years. Jay and Tate were looked at as top 50 prospects that were being held back because they weren't starting. Tate got put in the rotation at the beginning of this season only because an inferior pitcher, UCSB's initial Friday night pitcher, went down to injury. I think Tate struggling lately is a result of this being his first season starting. He has a great arm, a good pitcher's frame and great athletic ability. If he were to slip to #8, a trendy idea right now, he would be a great value to the Sox. What is interesting is these mocks we have seen haven't really considered Tate falling to the Sox so there hasn't been any chatter about how the Sox feel about him. I know that some in the Sox org are very fond of Tate. I just don't think he gets past Minnesota. 1.) Arizona - 2.) Houston - 3.) Colorado - 4.) Texas - 5.) Houston - 6.) Minnesota - 7.) Boston - 8.) Sox - I think it's a lock that Rodgers, Swanson and Bregman go before the Sox pick. So that leaves four picks that we are not sure of with players like Tate, Jay, Fulmer, Benintendi, Tucker and Daz Cameron being the most likely. With nine days to go, this is how I would guess it goes. 1.) Arizona - Swanson 2.) Houston - Rodgers 3.) Colorado - Jay 4.) Texas - Bregman/Tate 5.) Houston - Cameron/Tate 6.) Minnesota - Bregman/Tate 7.) Boston - Benintendi/Fulmer 8.) Sox - So it seems to me like it's getting to the point where it looks like we won't get one of Tate, Jay or Fulmer at #8. The Texas pick at #4 is a big question mark messing up a lot of mocks. I think the best case scenario for the Sox is Tucker going somewhere 4-6 and the Red Sox preferring Benintendi over Fulmer. a great analysis esp the bold. nice!!! my take 1.) Arizona - Swanson-ss 2.) Houston - college pitcher (they were just looking for a pitching help) 3.) Colorado - pitcher top avail / rodgers-ss (they need pitching help in the system) 4.) Texas - pitcher 5.) Houston - Tucker 6.) Minnesota - bergman / benintendi (they wouldn't mind a top prep here) 7.) Boston - bergman / pitching 8.) Sox - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I love what I have been reading about Tyler Jay and Carson Fulmer. Dillon Tate as well. Maybe it's my way of thinking, but I would love the Sox to just pick Tyler Stephenson just to give them a challenge to develop this guy, at a premium position, to prove doubters wrong that they can develop big league talented hitters consistently. The Sox DID help to develop hitters like Thomas, Ventura, Baines, Ray Durham, Aaron Rowand, Joe Crede...you could also say to some small degree that they have helped to develop Jose Abreu and Alexei Ramirez. I realize that the track record of the White Sox isn't great at all regarding developing hitters. But, if you have this kind of talent at a premium position to select, why not? If the Sox have their choice of Jay, Fulmer, Tate, Stephenson, or even Benintendi; that will make my day. I would personally be ecstatic if they chose Stephenson, but I understand it is, and should be, best player available on their draft board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (OilCan @ May 30, 2015 -> 10:27 PM) I love what I have been reading about Tyler Jay and Carson Fulmer. Dillon Tate as well. Maybe it's my way of thinking, but I would love the Sox to just pick Tyler Stephenson just to give them a challenge to develop this guy, at a premium position, to prove doubters wrong that they can develop big league talented hitters consistently. The Sox DID help to develop hitters like Thomas, Ventura, Baines, Ray Durham, Aaron Rowand, Joe Crede...you could also say to some small degree that they have helped to develop Jose Abreu and Alexei Ramirez. I realize that the track record of the White Sox isn't great at all regarding developing hitters. But, if you have this kind of talent at a premium position to select, why not? If the Sox have their choice of Jay, Fulmer, Tate, Stephenson, or even Benintendi; that will make my day. I would personally be ecstatic if they chose Stephenson, but I understand it is, and should be, best player available on their draft board. who was the GM that drafted them?? who were the coaches in the minors at the time?? this sounded as i was being a jerk, i didn't mean to, the point is they were not KW selections. here is some of my concerns. in the past couple of weeks, the blogs have been mentioning how Tate is now going 5+ innings. Tate was a rp and then converted to sp. so is he tired or is the real makeup of him is as a rp who was stretch. some are saying that is why he may be dropping a little. now whether that is true or not.... i do not know. i depend on the mocks and blogs just like everyone else. also, was this person telling the truth.... who knows. as with Tate the same goes with Jay, do mlb really draft a closer in the top 15 let alone top 8?? the sox have rp / closer covered already and maybe in the future with Montas. lastly do you want a top 8 on a prep who may or may not developed as hoped. cough cough .... Hawkins. Edited May 31, 2015 by LDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I would also be ecstatic if the Sox drafted Tyler Stephenson. I would be really tempted to move him from behind the plate and maybe try him at third or in the outfield, so he can just focus on developing his bat. The bat speed that he posses is special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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