MnSoxFan Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 02:31 PM) I think the Sox take whichever college RHSP that slips to them between Buehler, Matuela, Bickford or if they are all gone pick whichever of Fulmer, Funkhouser or OF DJ Stewart are left. All of them, potentially with the exception of Bickford, look like they will be quick movers and be able to add value to the ML roster in short order. In the second round they will find a high ceiling guy that slipped to continue to reinforce the bottom of the system. Pitching, pitching and more pitching, at least for the draft. We will acquire the bats we need in FA, Hahn has said that we will participate in FAs this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 QUOTE (MnSoxFan @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 04:18 PM) Pitching, pitching and more pitching, at least for the draft. We will acquire the bats we need in FA, Hahn has said that we will participate in FAs this offseason. yeah I am with you on this, however the 2015 draft does not have the pitching studs as 2014 draft. outside the top 3 college arms, I really don't see any exciting hs pitchers. this is base on today observation. the hs'ers that will be avail, appears to be positional players in the top 15. the second tier of pitchers are mostly college. as it looks there may be some exciting arms avail in the 2 rd. but I would like to see how this plays out as the yr come to a close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Keep in mind everyone that the amateur season does not start til mid February and things are bound to change. More players are bound to emerge so don't look too much into things right now. Its fun getting to know names but speculating on heir draft positions is pointless for the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 16, 2014 -> 12:36 PM) No kidding? I did not know that. While I got ya here. In the thread " its that time of year" in the Sox forums were discussing Aiken and his smaller UCL. Since you know a lot about this kind of stuff what are your thoughts on the kids UCL. The question of drafting him came up if he was available and so did his UCL. Can youmshed some light on this? It would be Much appreciated. I've never seen anyone look at the size of the UCL before. It makes anatomic sense that a smaller one would have less tensile strength. They usually just look at the stanility of the joint and past injuries. It is definitely a comtroversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 11:06 PM) I've never seen anyone look at the size of the UCL before. It makes anatomic sense that a smaller one would have less tensile strength. They usually just look at the stanility of the joint and past injuries. It is definitely a comtroversy. OK, thanks for your input. Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 18, 2014 -> 04:42 AM) Keep in mind everyone that the amateur season does not start til mid February and things are bound to change. More players are bound to emerge so don't look too much into things right now. Its fun getting to know names but speculating on heir draft positions is pointless for the moment. yeah and I agree, that is why I was saying without any names that I would love to see how things develop. esp when unknown prospects will start making a name for themselves. I am with you on being informed on prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 18, 2014 -> 07:52 AM) yeah and I agree, that is why I was saying without any names that I would love to see how things develop. esp when unknown prospects will start making a name for themselves. I am with you on being informed on prospects. a renewed mock draft sept 22, http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 03:14 PM) a renewed mock draft sept 22, http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft I know this means absolutely nothing, but just reading the name "Mike Nikorak" makes me cringe. Sounds like a perfect name for a guy we will won't be talking about in 3 years. Has bust written all over his dumb name. Give me a D.J. Stewart or Brendan Rodgers or a Daz Cameron. Those sound like stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 03:27 PM) I know this means absolutely nothing, but just reading the name "Mike Nikorak" makes me cringe. Sounds like a perfect name for a guy we will won't be talking about in 3 years. Has bust written all over his dumb name. Give me a D.J. Stewart or Brendan Rodgers or a Daz Cameron. Those sound like stars. I used the names "Porcello" and "Poreda" to justify their major league chances when they were drafted too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Baseball America is really down on the overall crop of college players in this draft class. They say all the elite talent, with an exception of a few are all high schoolers. Strengths of the draft class are: HS Athletes and Hs Pitching (Velocity). Edited September 25, 2014 by Joshua Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 03:58 PM) I used the names "Porcello" and "Poreda" to justify their major league chances when they were drafted too. You were right on one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 01:02 AM) Baseball America is really down on the overall crop of college players in this draft class. They say all the elite talent, with an exception of a few are all high schoolers. Strengths of the draft class are: HS Athletes and Hs Pitching (Velocity). With the Sox likely to pick in the 8-10 range this could be a draft where the Sox grab a high school talent in the first round. Its still way too early since there's still one season of college and high school to be played before June's draft next year. Its still fun to talk about since the Sox will have a top 10 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 02:47 AM) You were right on one of them. I was actually right on both of them. I was talking with WHarris at the time and said "Porcello just sounds like a baseball name. Poreda? That's a guy that's never gonna make it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 07:02 AM) Baseball America is really down on the overall crop of college players in this draft class. They say all the elite talent, with an exception of a few are all high schoolers. Strengths of the draft class are: HS Athletes and Hs Pitching (Velocity). these guys who makes these list as an easy and enviable position. we are all baseball fans, we also like talking about prospect and draft. we are ranked amateurs who does this as a labor of love. with that, these guys on this site are extremely good at this. so with this draft coming up next yr. it is hard to grade, harder than any in the past that I can remember. but what the hell do I know. this draft, the elite talen 1-4 are college pitchers. the next couple are a mix with hs positional talent and middle of the rd pitchers. then comes a good mix of college outfield and hs pitchers. I really do wish the sox had 2 picks in the 4-8 picks and then another in the 12-16 pick oh well I guess I can wish all I can. now for the sox brass identifying their needs and what is avail. for my thoughts I will probably make a decision some time in Nov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 12:18 PM) Why does the Sox picking 8-10 make them more likely to pick a high school player? Reread the post you quoted and then read your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 25, 2014 -> 04:28 PM) these guys who makes these list as an easy and enviable position. we are all baseball fans, we also like talking about prospect and draft. we are ranked amateurs who does this as a labor of love. with that, these guys on this site are extremely good at this. so with this draft coming up next yr. it is hard to grade, harder than any in the past that I can remember. but what the hell do I know. this draft, the elite talen 1-4 are college pitchers. the next couple are a mix with hs positional talent and middle of the rd pitchers. then comes a good mix of college outfield and hs pitchers. I really do wish the sox had 2 picks in the 4-8 picks and then another in the 12-16 pick oh well I guess I can wish all I can. now for the sox brass identifying their needs and what is avail. for my thoughts I will probably make a decision some time in Nov. They weren't even high on the college pitchers that are expected to go early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Sep 26, 2014 -> 01:19 AM) They weren't even high on the college pitchers that are expected to go early. depending on which mock draft, some has aiken either going with 2 other college arms going top 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 03:14 PM) a renewed mock draft sept 22, http://www.mymlbdraft.com/MLB-Mock-Draft Well, the Sox finish with the 8th pick for 2015 which, according to this mock, would have the Sox drafting Ashe Russell. Why not? In one video I watched of him he was wearing a Sox cap. I know its entirely way to early but now that the draft position is known, I just can't help myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 28, 2014 -> 10:40 PM) Well, the Sox finish with the 8th pick for 2015 which, according to this mock, would have the Sox drafting Ashe Russell. Why not? In one video I watched of him he was wearing a Sox cap. I know its entirely way to early but now that the draft position is known, I just can't help myself. same here, if you are like me, I like to identify the prospect in a certain area and I will like to follow them until draft day. re Ashe Russell, interesting make up, someone to keep an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Working out the draft order, looks like the Sox will be picking eighth. 1. Diamondbacks 2. Astros (for not coming to terms with 2014 No. 1 pick Brady Aiken) 3. Rockies 4. Rangers 5. Astros 6. Twins 7. Red Sox 8. White Sox 9. Cubs 10. Phillies 11. Reds 12. Marlins 13. Padres 14. Rays 15. Mets 16. Braves 17. Brewers 18. Blue Jays 19. Yankees 20. Indians 21. Mariners 22. Giants 23. Pirates 24. Athletics 25. Royals 26. Tigers 27. Cardinals 28. Dodgers 29. Orioles 30. Nationals 31. Angels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 06:00 AM) same here, if you are like me, I like to identify the prospect in a certain area and I will like to follow them until draft day. re Ashe Russell, interesting make up, someone to keep an eye on. In the videos I watche , Ashe was consistently throwing 93/94 with tailing on his fastball. The slider and curve need work but that's to be expected from a 17 year old. Like you, I will be keeping an eye on him to see how he performs during the spring HS season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 04:52 PM) In the videos I watche , Ashe was consistently throwing 93/94 with tailing on his fastball. The slider and curve need work but that's to be expected from a 17 year old. Like you, I will be keeping an eye on him to see how he performs during the spring HS season. the players I like so far are in order: 1. Brendan Rodgers - hs - ss 2. Ian Happ - college - ss/of. he did great in cape league this summer. 3. D.J. Stewart - college - of. 4. tie - Walker Buehler - college - pitcher, Nathan Kirby - college - pitcher and then there are several other pitcher of note with Russell, Lemoine and Ferrell http://www.pointstreak.com/baseball/stats....;seasonid=26713 Edited October 1, 2014 by LDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 30, 2014 -> 05:47 PM) the players I like so far are in order: 1. Brendan Rodgers - hs - ss 2. Ian Happ - college - ss/of. he did great in cape league this summer. 3. D.J. Stewart - college - of. 4. tie - Walker Buehler - college - pitcher, Nathan Kirby - college - pitcher and then there are several other pitcher of note with Russell, Lemoine and Ferrell http://www.pointstreak.com/baseball/stats....;seasonid=26713 I happen to like all of those guys, but I would add Kyle Tucker to that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Ian Happ sounds like the best college bat available and there is some talk of moving him to the outfield, I'll be interested to see if they bite on him. I think he'll be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 1, 2014 -> 08:23 AM) Ian Happ sounds like the best college bat available and there is some talk of moving him to the outfield, I'll be interested to see if they bite on him. I think he'll be there. yeah a switch hitting second basemen that gets comped to utley wouldn't make me upset at all especially for the 8th overall pick, but i think a more realistic comp would be Shane Victorino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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