Yes or No, Danks for Santiago straight-up

[The Ultimate Champion]

Angels are looking for another starter and don't want to give up anything all that significant. They appear to have given up on Santiago. Offer them Danks straight up IMO, and yes I do this deal. I still love Hector's gritty overachieverness and attitude, and I think Don Cooper is man among boys when it comes to his colleagues around the league.

[The Ultimate Champion]

1-1, wow this poll is really hot s***.

 

Remember the Angels are the team that signed Hamilton, Pujols, gave a bunch of money to that guy they just released this year, Blanton IIRC, they took on Vernon Wells' contract, etc. Money probably isn't much of an issue. Santiago + salary relief could be a great haul for us. Then we re-evaluate once Rodon is here.

[southsider2k5]

Meh. I would hope we could do better than a future reliever.

[BlackSox13]

Have to say no to this. He just walks too many batters. Frustrating at times to say the least.

[royoung]

It would be a cash dump for a reclamation project that we gave up on in the first place. No thanks

Edited July 17, 2014 by southside hitman

[2nd_city_saint787]

Sox don't need to do any kind of salary dump. DAnks contract isn't restricting them from doing what needs to be done...So no, Danks>>Santiago

[CWSpalehoseCWS]

No way. Sox can do way better than a future reliever, plus, they gave up on him first by trading him.

[Buehrle>Wood]

Yes please

[Jake]

We easily would have traded Danks for Eaton, so probably

[Kyyle23]

Yes please

 

Y u like hot garbage

[Andy the Clown]

Are the Angels taking on all of Danks' salary? If so, the return doesn't matter. I'd take the ghost of Chilli Davis.

[2nd_city_saint787]

Are the Angels taking on all of Danks' salary? If so, the return doesn't matter. I'd take the ghost of Chilli Davis.

 

How much do you expect the Sox to spend in FA this coming up offseason?

 

A straight up salary dump of Danks would leave the Sox with a salary of less than 30M dollars. (20M if they trade Lexi)

 

Sox simply DO NOT have to trade Danks because of his salary.....At least IMO anyway.

[BlackSox13]

As others have pointed out, the Sox have plenty of room in the payroll. Use Danks to bridge the gap to Rodon and then trade Danks. Hopefully Danks improves his value even more while we wait for Rodon.

[LittleHurt05]

No thanks. The Sox have enough holes in the rotation, why create another one?

[The Ultimate Champion]

Y u like hot garbage

Ok, that's it. No more using this term.

 

Seriously, now. No more.

[Bigsoxhurt35]

Not a chance. Danks is back in his groove pitching well.

[The Ultimate Champion]

No thanks. The Sox have enough holes in the rotation, why create another one?

Carroll is a nice long man, he can handle it.

 

Hector being demoted has kept his IP total down, we'd be able to get 5-6IP/game out of him for the rest of the year easy. Maybe he doesn't work much deeper than that, but that's what Coop is for!

 

Also our team is garbage, there's holes all over this thing. I don't mind opening them wherever so long as there is at least a little bit of youth and upside to plug in there. KW & Hahn should like Hector still, he is a grinder on the mound with a football mentality.

[The Ultimate Champion]

As others have pointed out, the Sox have plenty of room in the payroll. Use Danks to bridge the gap to Rodon and then trade Danks. Hopefully Danks improves his value even more while we wait for Rodon.

I think this is the most realistic scenario and probably the one preferred by the org. It'll be L-R-L-R-L if they get their wish & Rodon will be one of those guys. Maybe someone offers the moon for Q and things change but I doubt it, Danks will probably be the odd man out.

[2nd_city_saint787]

Carroll is a nice long man, he can handle it.

 

Hector being demoted has kept his IP total down, we'd be able to get 5-6IP/game out of him for the rest of the year easy. Maybe he doesn't work much deeper than that, but that's what Coop is for!

 

Also our team is garbage, there's holes all over this thing. I don't mind opening them wherever so long as there is at least a little bit of youth and upside to plug in there. KW & Hahn should like Hector still, he is a grinder on the mound with a football mentality.

 

Santiago is only 2 years younger than Danks so that's not really getting that much younger.

 

Santiago shouldn't have to have his innings limited at this point. If he was any good he'd be throwing 175+ innings after throwing 149 the year before.

 

Coop has already worked with him.

 

I'd be fine trading Beckham and some minor leaguers or something like that but you either get something valuable for Danks or you keep...Not trade him for a guy who more than likely ends up in the pen.

[The Ultimate Champion]

Santiago is only 2 years younger than Danks so that's not really getting that much younger.

 

Santiago shouldn't have to have his innings limited at this point. If he was any good he'd be throwing 175+ innings after throwing 149 the year before.

 

Coop has already worked with him.

 

I'd be fine trading Beckham and some minor leaguers or something like that but you either get something valuable for Danks or you keep...Not trade him for a guy who more than likely ends up in the pen.

This is a quality post and likely pushes this poll even further into "No" territory.

 

Well s*** I thought it was a good idea at first.

 

But the Beckham idea... can we run with that? 3-way deal with the Yanks/Toronto/etc. where Angels get something they need, we get Hector, we send out Beckham. That's a great deal for us. We can send out Belisario there too.

[BlackSox13]

I think this is the most realistic scenario and probably the one preferred by the org. It'll be L-R-L-R-L if they get their wish & Rodon will be one of those guys. Maybe someone offers the moon for Q and things change but I doubt it, Danks will probably be the odd man out.

This is what I'm hoping for. I know Q could bring a haul but unless blown away, he's not going anywhere. If Danks continues to pitch well the rest of the season I'd bet he's gone for sure this winter when teams budgets have more flexabiity.

 

IMO, keep Danks for now and hope this scenario plays out over the winter.

 

Back to Hector. I like the guy and at times he could dominate but those walks are a just a killer.

[Heads22]

Whether or not you think Danks performance in the first half is a mirage, his salary is not crippling us in any way. All depends if you think he's actually a 5 ERA pitcher these days or not.

[Kyyle23]

Ok, that's it. No more using this term.

 

Seriously, now. No more.

 

You don't get to post pictures of hairy boobs and then tell me I can't say Hot Garbage.

[Andy the Clown]

Whether or not you think Danks performance in the first half is a mirage, his salary is not crippling us in any way. All depends if you think he's actually a 5 ERA pitcher these days or not.

 

I'd rather get rid of his sorry ass, take the money and get some major league hitters to fill the four or five black holes in the lineup, and look for the next Noesi to replace Danks.

[greg775]

Some guys on this site want Jerry to have a payroll of about 10 million. Heck no to this trade. The commissioner should veto such a deal. Danks has actually become good again.